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Re: Damaged ribs = Seat

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:51 pm
by EricSanders
Sorry to hear about the ribs.
I've been using the ION B2 board shorts and they've been really good about not jamming the jewels or riding up wedgie style.

Re: Damaged ribs = Seat

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:53 pm
Good to hear you're still getting after it, but don't destroy that knee again! :nono: :wink:

Being a dealer just like you, I can get anything I want. I use both waist and seat, depending on what I'm doing. For riding powered, there's no substitute for the comfort of the seat. And just like you, I use the Dakine Fusion. I consider it "best of breed" and have had one ever since they first came out in 2001. I must've had 6 or 7 over the years now. The issue you're describing is usually found when the leg straps are too loose. I tell people they must be snug, but not so tight they sing soprano. If they're too loose, there's nothing to prevent the harness from riding up. I've helped a lot of people find relief with this harness, so I still believe it's the right one for you! Good luck. :thumb:

Re: Damaged ribs = Seat

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:27 am
by Dave_5280
I'm sorry to hear about your injury and hope it heals for you.

I use an older Fusion Seat harness and would get soreness on the ends of my ribs from the spreader bar ends twisting in at the top. I put a JBar on it and never had sore ribs after that and I think it was because the way the hook swivels up, not so much due the horizontal slide movement.

Good luck healing up.

Re: Damaged ribs = Seat

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:58 am
by Dave K
I'm probably the extreme case of someone with lousy back who still kites. My solution is pretty Harsh but it allows me to keep kiting. Had low back surgery when I was 27 (around 1986 and missing about 30% of my l3-l4 disc ever since) and have always had to use a seat harness for kiting. Started with the Fusions but I found that the key to reduced back loading was keeping the spreader bar locked way down low at the hips, basically at the l4-l5 elevation or even a bit lower. All that extra back padding of the Fusion was worthless if I couldn't keep the bar low.

Think about it, if your seriously powered up, and edging big time while sending the kite low in the power zone, all the harness lumbar back padding in the world isn't gonna prevent the load from transferring to your spine if the bar is high. With the bar low enough all the load is transferred from my hips right to my legs. My whole upper torso above the hips is just along for the ride. With the kite high in the window it's not an issue, but who rides with a kite parked at 11?

I found that if I took that very bottom d clamp strap on the bottom of the Fusion and sewed even tigher than it's max closed position, I could force the bar lower and keep it locked lower without having ride up during the session. The bottom of the harness acts more like a real seat, but if your upright when you kite (most of us are!) the bottom of the harness digs under your butt. It's not the greatest feeling (have session red marks to prove it) however it locks the bar low and allows me play instead of giving up.

Anyway, I graduated from the Fusion and did the same thing with a pair of Nitrous shorts. Even had a boat cover shop do the stitching I specified. Riding that way ever since. When I foil I can even loosen the straps up a bit since the loading is so much lower :D