Foil and any sized TT cannot compare. The foil will win that game every time. If you can go on a TT you'll be able to go on a door (simple fact is that foil can have larger boards as well), once you go on a foil you'll go faster, better and more upwind where the door at some point will drag you downwind.
I interpreted jakemoore's questions more towards me so I answered those from my conditions.. Someone else on somewhere else would think differently.
The message quoted was answer to jakemoore's question if someone has both (foil & door) and what you think. "Have any of the people advocating door style twintips or surfboards tried foiling?"tautologies wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:35 pmFoil and any sized TT cannot compare. The foil will win that game every time. If you can go on a TT you'll be able to go on a door (simple fact is that foil can have larger boards as well), once you go on a foil you'll go faster, better and more upwind where the door at some point will drag you downwind.
IMO doors are also a PITA to ride in any kind of wind. It is literally the only board I dislike, but I respect that other like them.
I broke all of them. I never had a kitesurfboard or surfboard that I tried to kite that was over around 40l. Windsurfboards are so bad as kiteboards, that there is really no value in my experience there.Slappysan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:14 pm
I know you ride a LF kitefish so you wont experience this with that board at all because it weighs a ton and is pretty low volume. If you have access to a light weight 35L + board take it out and practice standing still on top of it and see how much kite force you need to stay dry.
And again, I am a complete failure in getting across the concept of displacement, Sub planing (plowing), and planing. If the forward movement of the board is around 2knots or more, you can see that planing forces have taken over. Just look down at your board and if the water has "fallen off" the back of the tail, (sub)planing forces are the only thing acting on the board. ONLY when you have the board sunk, is volume relevant as a force holding you up.
Foil beats any door in ability to ride lightwindtautologies wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:35 pmFoil and any sized TT cannot compare. The foil will win that game every time. If you can go on a TT you'll be able to go on a door (simple fact is that foil can have larger boards as well), once you go on a foil you'll go faster, better and more upwind where the door at some point will drag you downwind.
IMO doors are also a PITA to ride in any kind of wind. It is literally the only board I dislike, but I respect that other like them.
I do this on the kite fish, in medium to high winds. Light winds - this is not something I try to do when the winds are 12knots or less. Rather I make every effort to avoid stopping in light winds. Speed, and speed through the trainsition is key to having a good time in light winds.Slappysan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:33 pmLike I said you just gotta get out there on a decent volume board and give it a try. Just sit stationary and float on the board using the kite to support as much weight as needed. It's not even that hard, especially if you are decent at balancing on a low volume SUP.
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