knotwindy wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:11 pm
Depends if you pull to the same distance or with the same pressure.
edt wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:33 pm
kitexpert wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:09 pm
Higher bar pressure due to shorter leverage (backline attachment closer to frontlines) should not give slower turns. Same amount of sheeting (or turning input) makes then bigger reaction in kite, so turning should be faster
Well the kite definitely turns quicker if you move the attachment points all the way to the rear of the kite and the bar pressure also goes down. I admit your reasoning makes sense but that's not how it works. Maybe it's because we never kite with our hands all the way on the ends of the control bar but somewhere in the middle so the constant is not the distance the end of the control bar travels but the amount of pressure you exert? Actually we probably move our arms around on the control bar to make the pressure exactly the same no matter where you move the attachments. When you feel higher pressure you move your hands more to the end of the control bar, and with less pressure you move your hands closer to the middle so you get a better lever arm for a quicker kite.
I agree with kitexpert and knotwindy.
In order to compare turning speed at different rear line attachment points you should apply the same steering command which means same bar end travel (distance and time), otherwise you are comparing apples with oranges. In order to apply the same command you will definitely need less force when in A setting (rear line attachment point closer to the wingtip) and the kite will turn SLOWER because same command, same bar end travel will mean less kite angle change. On B setting the kite angle change is bigger and the turning will be quicker.
I also agree with edt that it is possible to 'feel' that the kite is turning faster on setting A and the reason for that is that with less bar pressure on setting A you apply easily and faster more radical (more bar end travel) steering command. With more radical command of course the kite turns faster
To be even more precise if we have a big kite, turning it on setting B will need too much force and it is practically easier and faster to turn it using A setting.
On the other hand smaller kites need much less force to turn and it is easy enough to make fast and radical steering commands even on B setting. Small kites will turn faster on setting B.
For waveriding I use my smaller kites on B setting and the bigger ones on A setting