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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby bigtone667 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:52 pm

edt wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:57 pm
bigtone667 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:49 pm

I don't understand the reluctance to use the safety on a kite.
the QR is one of the best ways to land the kite. The reason people don't like it is . . . the lines sometimes get tangled? It is weird why people hate pulling their QR.
I release to safety 20% of the time, takes me two minutes to reset the lines. Kites destroyed, zero. Bodies damaged, zero.

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby IWB2 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 am

The best self land/self rescue system I ever used was the Cabrinha IDS system 2009-2013 (when using the Switchblade). This system was amaysing as one could hit the QR in any conditions and the kite would be out cold with the leading edge down and the kite facing you). Because the kite would face you LE down the actual pull was very low when compared to flagging a kite on a single front line. Of the many many times the IDS self land was used it always worked perfectly. This system is no longer used by Cabrinha unfortunately. The video below shows how the kite reacted when releasing the QR. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-CmjKvUAI[/youtube]

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby dylan* » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:35 am

bigtone667 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:49 pm
Fly the kite at 12 oclock and pull the safety. The kite will generally land direct downwind from you with little possibility of damage. Very easy to walk the safety line without damaging your hands.

I don't understand the reluctance to use the safety on a kite.
the argument they were making was that the kite flops around too much and pulls too hard when plummet is kiting in a hurricane by himself and the line hurts his hands

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby Do-it » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:15 am

5th line.....I ejected a 9 m in 55mph ...no issues. Sounds like you are masturbating with way too much lotion. Best advice is to get a girlfriend. Asap.

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby PullStrings » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:22 am

Do-it wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:15 am
I ejected a 9 m in 55mph
James Bond's eject button

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby matth » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:39 am

edt wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:57 pm
bigtone667 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:49 pm

I don't understand the reluctance to use the safety on a kite.
the QR is one of the best ways to land the kite. The reason people don't like it is . . . the lines sometimes get tangled? It is weird why people hate pulling their QR.

I'll take tangled lines over broken bones or death anyday :lol: :lol:

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby Teabageppo » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:06 am

PullStrings wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:44 pm
kjorn wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:51 am
Let me anticipate the pedants ... blah blah sand bag blah stake in the ground blah. Sometimes I get out of the sea a long way from where I got in. I may get out quickly to avoid a squall and want to land my kite.
YES a real self landing...all by yourself...and nothing else

Was in a squall situation recently on 10 Rebel...before the squall hit was a fun 1 1/2 hour sesh side-on at 20-25 knots...but during the 35-40+ knots squall it was stinging rain "dead onshore wind"
It was high tide with small sandy beach and house 50 meters straight downwind
I was out with a friend ...he had a 9 Fuse
We both opted to go further out to sea and ride the squall that lasted 10 long minutes
We positioned both our kites at edge of the window on their wingtips touching the water where the wind speed was a bit less in between the waves
Fully depowered...bar out..sitting still in the water..strapped to our surfboards...the kites were flapping like mad..our hands ready to hit the QR if shit would hit the fan at 50+ knots

We would rather stay on the water in certain temporary very high wind directions...more high impact accidents happen coming on land ...in a hurry trying to put the kite down

Self landing in very high wind... i do very similar to what "Sarc" said he does with the 5th line of the Rebel



Exactly he's on it. Get caught by a squall, get the fck further out into the water and do what the guy above says. With hand on the quick release, in case the wind gets so violent the kite starts to lose its shape completely and is uncontrollable. Stay the fck away from shore.

Those of you not on fifth line loaded rebels will need to pull their primary release much sooner of course... :jump:

And yeh, land mine similar to the above. Having only a 10m rebel (one kite quiver) I get out in some insane winds at 80kg.

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby plummet » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:47 am

dylan* wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:35 am
bigtone667 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:49 pm
Fly the kite at 12 oclock and pull the safety. The kite will generally land direct downwind from you with little possibility of damage. Very easy to walk the safety line without damaging your hands.

I don't understand the reluctance to use the safety on a kite.
the argument they were making was that the kite flops around too much and pulls too hard when plummet is kiting in a hurricane by himself and the line hurts his hands
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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby rynhardt » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:41 am

bigtone667 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:49 pm
Fly the kite at 12 oclock and pull the safety. The kite will generally land direct downwind from you with little possibility of damage. Very easy to walk the safety line without damaging your hands.

I don't understand the reluctance to use the safety on a kite.
^^^ this depends very much on your kite, your release mechanism, your launch/land area.

With strutless kites, preferred method is to keep it at the edge of the window and walk both front lines up to the kite.
With release to two front lines (not single front or 5th), same deal.
Tiny landing zone? Park the kite where it needs to be, and once again walk the two front lines up to the kite.

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Re: Could someone please invent a better way to self land a kite in high wind.

Postby RedSky » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:09 am

IWB2 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:13 am
The best self land/self rescue system I ever used was the Cabrinha IDS system 2009-2013 (when using the Switchblade). This system was amaysing as one could hit the QR in any conditions and the kite would be out cold with the leading edge down and the kite facing you). Because the kite would face you LE down the actual pull was very low when compared to flagging a kite on a single front line. Of the many many times the IDS self land was used it always worked perfectly. This system is no longer used by Cabrinha unfortunately. The video below shows how the kite reacted when releasing the QR. [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-CmjKvUAI[/youtube]
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