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Fixing a twintip?

Postby ColdWeatherKiter » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:34 pm

Good evening,
I hit some rocks a while ago. How can i fix this? I should probably use some of that epoxy stuff? How does this work? Would i better fill the opening with epoxy or should i put pressure on the tips as well?
Hoping i can get this worked out for a Fuerteventura trip! :D
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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby kjorn » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:17 pm

Short answer - get some good quality epoxy from a DIY shop (it comes in two parts and you squeeze them together, sometimes they are in two syringes)

Get some G clamps or similar.

Wash board in warm clean water, dry completely (hair dryer)

Mix epoxy, put epoxy in ding.

Wrap ding in cling film (so g clamps aren't bonded to your board)

Use G clamps to clamp ding shut

Wait 3 hours (or so) use a knife to clean up all the epoxy that has squirted out of the ding.

Clamp again

Wait 24 hours.

Sand paper the rough spots.

Head over the the board builder section of this forum for better advice.

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby knyfe » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 am

correct, fill the gaps with epoxy, put a sheet of plastic bag on the top and bottom and squeeze it together between two wooden boards with a clamp (with the plastic bag sheets in between to get an easy separation and a super smooth surface). DONE G

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby plummet » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:03 pm

As above. However if there has been structural damage around the fin due to impact it might be worth while considering a some reinforcement also.

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby ColdWeatherKiter » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:37 pm

Ah no, its just the tips layers have come apart just a little bit. Just want to make sure that the core doesnt get flooded by time.
Thank you all for these wise words!

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby plummet » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:39 am

Ok. Proceed as planned then. Make sure its dry and clean before resining

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby Matteo V » Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:33 pm

G-flex is good for this situation and can even handle some water without being compromised.

Here is a link to a very recent post on the same situation.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2398262

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby H2Oaltitude » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:17 am

knyfe wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 am
correct, fill the gaps with epoxy, put a sheet of plastic bag on the top and bottom and squeeze it together between two wooden boards with a clamp (with the plastic bag sheets in between to get an easy separation and a super smooth surface). DONE G
Plastic bag will bond to epoxy and epoxy will yellow w/sun. better to use a good fiberglass resin like west systems. (will not yellow) https://www.westsystem.com/ use mylar plastic sheeting https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Myla ... B01BH76J36. Wax mylar with automotive paste (2 coats) then place wax side down against resin supported with thin flat wood or similar (clamp) and let fully cure. Will leave resin smooth and will not bond.

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby Matteo V » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:24 pm

Not intending to shoot you down, but this does need correction. Please feel free to list your specific experience.
H2Oaltitude wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:17 am

Plastic bag will bond to epoxy and epoxy will yellow w/sun.
I work in the Marine industry doing fiberglass repairs specifically with West System 105 and G-flex. Both epoxies DO NOT stick to LDPE/HDPE (zipock and almost all other no-name brands) bags or any other polyethylene plastic. Actually, nothing does. If you come up with something that does bond to Polyethylene, you are rich enough to never have to work again in your life. If you look up the industrial processes and few chemical treatments for doing this, you will understand how difficult this plastic is to bond to. My only idea of why you may have experience epoxy sticking to new plastic bags is if you had some folds in the covering piece of plastic. This would "lock" the plastic in to the repair. I Even use "Saran wrap" as a smoothing cover to eliminate some sanding in the finished repair/coating.

AND

UV is a huge issue with West System 105. When used as a coating on wood, you have to put a highly UV resistant polyurethane coating on top of it to protect it or you have to paint it. This is the reason why West System 105 is extremely unpopular for surfboard construction - no part of the surfboard could be clear without another (more weight) coat of UV protectant. However, for smaller repairs where maximum structural integrity is not required, you can just let the West System 105 yellow and become brittle. And given that a surfboard is not in the sun all the time like a sailboat is, you really don't need to concern yourself with this too much in a TT or surfboard repair unless you are going to leave it in the sun for a month straight.

H2Oaltitude wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:17 am

......use mylar plastic sheeting https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Myla ... B01BH76J36. Wax mylar with automotive paste (2 coats) then place wax side down against resin supported with thin flat wood or similar (clamp) and let fully cure. Will leave resin smooth and will not bond.
For low heat build up instances like the OP's repair, waxed paper (next to the aluminum foil and saran wrap in the grocery store) is the way to go. It is pretty stiff for keeping contours (don't use on compound contours). Only when extreme heat is applied, is wax paper a no-go. So if your pour is going to get hot (about 3x3x3 cube of epoxy in your repair), the wax will melt and the epoxy will infiltrate the paper. This is not a big deal if you are sanding anyway, but wax paper will not leave a finished surface if heated too much as some of the paper will remain behind. Also make sure that if you are using external heat to make the epoxy set faster, you will likely not get a good finished surface with waxed paper.

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Re: Fixing a twintip?

Postby knyfe » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:28 pm

Never had a plastic bag bonding with epoxy. May be I was just lucky using PE bags in general. Cling wrap foil also works well. G


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