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Splicing tips?

Postby merl » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:07 pm

I don't normally have problems splicing but this rope has me beat. It's the same stuff that best were using a year or two ago. The weave seems really tight. I usually open it up with a knitting needle and pull the line through with a wire but I just can't seem to get it through. Any tips? I've tried tapering the end a lot. Also using tape on the end. I don't have a fid but I've never needed one before. I tried spraying some dry lube too.

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby iriejohn » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:38 am

I could be completely wrong, but that looks like it might be 16 or 24 strand as opposed to 12 strand single braid which is really easy to splice.

Can you show a cleanly cut cross section please?

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby Kamikuza » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:44 pm

Use a longer "fid. Spread the weave out along it, so it's relaxed and not all bunched up. Then wiggle the tail down it, like you'd feed a drawstring back into your shorts . . . if you know what I mean. Small movements, not a lot of bunching up like in the photo :)

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby merl » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:43 pm

Kamikuza wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:44 pm
Use a longer "fid. Spread the weave out along it, so it's relaxed and not all bunched up. Then wiggle the tail down it, like you'd feed a drawstring back into your shorts . . . if you know what I mean. Small movements, not a lot of bunching up like in the photo :)
I don't have a metal fid if that's what you mean. The bunching is the result of opening the weave so that there is a hole in the middle - definitely not the cause of the problem. If you do this with regular dyneema splicing is a breeze. I don;t see how I can wiggle anything through this without opening up (bunchIng) it first - but I will give it a try...

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby merl » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:28 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:38 am
I could be completely wrong, but that looks like it might be 16 or 24 strand as opposed to 12 strand single braid which is really easy to splice.

Can you show a cleanly cut cross section please?

I think that must be the fundamental issue. As far as I can see there is no core, but I will give it a closer look. From what I see about splicing 16 strand (which usually means there is a core) is that it involves removing strands. That could be worth a try!

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby merl » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:00 pm

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12 strand
It is 12 strand. What a b*tch

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby Mossy 757 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:49 pm

I can't imagine trying to do that with a guitar string, I'd definitely go buy a fid at West Marine for that stuff.

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby edt » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:56 pm

I use a bicycle spoke cut off and a little piece of tape for lines that size. It's easier than using a wire for difficult to splice line.

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby iriejohn » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:16 pm

Would be easier with a proper fid, and make sure your rope cut is really nice and clean - wrap electricians tape where you're going to cut to keep the rope as packed as possible.

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Re: Splicing tips?

Postby jakemoore » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:19 pm

For amsteel I use a knitting needless it's more available than a proper fid. I push the needl3 through then attach the tail to bury with scotch tape.

Guitar string is better for fiddly bridle lines.


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