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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby badgb21 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:48 am

This!
SonnyRider wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:17 am
Boards are a much more personal experience, demo, demo, demo. Trust me, I spent a lot of money on the wrong sized boards because I listened to 150lb kids working in the shops.
If the kitesurf bug gets you, you'll plan for maybe a couple of TT's to begin with (and probably end up with 4 or 5!)
A large board transformed my learning, though I only needed it for a few sessions to get going in both directions, I could then use a mid size board fine. It served me well as a light wind board later on.

I have had a ton of boards since, conditions on the day will most likely determine how you get on, though you might be tempted to blame your gear at the time.
Say you have lightish onshore winds and incoming tides. you may have difficulty getting off the beach and need a board with a lot of water contact to get you out.
Same wind, cross on and low tide will see you blasting on a smaller board no problem.

At least with a few boards you can change (assuming you remembered to put a couple in the car!)
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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby greatlakeaddiction » Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:52 pm

I have always suggested a 17m as a first kite and plan just getting the feel for it on the marginal side of the wind range. My reason is simple, you are not efficient and you just simply need to be powered to progress faster. A large light wind board is a must if you opt for an 14m.

As a heavier rider and learned the hard way, I’ve been in your shoes.

My view is based on my local conditions and in fresh water.

The large kites are the most expensive, this sport is expensive, but they are worth it when learning.

My two cents

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby iriejohn » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:44 pm

I'm 82kg/180lb (grandfather) and used to have a 135x42 Shinn Monk which worked great with a 12m Rally. The Rally has great low end and the Monk was just the right width for it and my size 11 feet.

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby ralu81 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:04 pm

Hopefully you're thoroughly confused at this point... Welcome to the forum.

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby Havre » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:09 pm

greatlakeaddiction wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:52 pm
I have always suggested a 17m as a first kite and plan just getting the feel for it on the marginal side of the wind range. My reason is simple, you are not efficient and you just simply need to be powered to progress faster. A large light wind board is a must if you opt for an 14m.

As a heavier rider and learned the hard way, I’ve been in your shoes.

My view is based on my local conditions and in fresh water.

The large kites are the most expensive, this sport is expensive, but they are worth it when learning.

My two cents
I agree with you if it was a question of building a quiver. Combining a 17m with a 12 later works really well, but if it is a question of getting as much out of only one kite in those conditions a 14m seems very reasonable - 21mph with a 17m would be a bit of a hassle at his weight.

I don't agree that a light wind board is a must. My first board after taking the courses was a 142x42. I was at the time around 110kg. Don't think the board really stopped me from progressing reasonably well - even if it probably should have been slightly bigger (but not a light wind). Now I can still use and enjoy that board.

I think a 14m with a big, but not light wind board is the best compromise in this situation if you want to keep the cost down.

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby Beardytello » Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:58 pm

You've probably got all the advice you need, I'll throw my current set up in, being a big bastard I may be of some use!

I'm 250lbs, my kites are 17m, 14m and 9m.

I get the most use out of my 14m (which was my first one) the 17m is really only for low wind, I took it out in 17kts and ended up breaking my leg lol!

I have had to get myself a big board to progress, currently on a Spleene Monster Door until I drop more chub and or get better, but this allows me to ride my 9 in 18kts and up and my 14 in 13kts and up (minimums, not doing anything exciting)

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby alexglebov » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:55 pm

I am 215lbs and I have Slingshot Rally kites: 8m, 10m, 12m. When it is 12-14 mph wind I am using Spleene Monster Door (165x50), above that my normal board is 146 cm and I don't need anything bigger then 12m to go upwind.

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby Matteo V » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:30 am

greatlakeaddiction wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:52 pm
I have always suggested a 17m as a first kite and plan just getting the feel for it on the marginal side of the wind range. My reason is simple, you are not efficient and you just simply need to be powered to progress faster. A large light wind board is a must if you opt for an 14m.

As a heavier rider and learned the hard way, I’ve been in your shoes.

My view is based on my local conditions and in fresh water....
This comes at a cost. I agree with this advice for the OP, but I have seen what this does to kiters. Reliance on being overpowered limits your development in light wind, and completely hoses you in underpowered situations when the wind drops on a high wind day. This is how it worked for years at one of my destination freshwater lakes. Light winds necessitated big kites, but I would still be out on a 13.5m when others would not fly their 17m kites.

To avoid this trap, leave your 17m in the bag on a day that everyone else won't go out on that 17m because it is too light. Use your 12m instead of your 17m in this light wind once in a whild. Learn how to develop power when you must utilize the placement of the kite and develop (rider) momentum with kite loops. This takes time and dedication, but it is as valuable as having a 17m.

Just a note - Hydrofoils have started to get most of those kiters out on the water now, when in the past, I was the only one out on a large board. So the game is changing with respect to even my advice.

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby Kamikuza » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:25 am

Being a 200lb rider, he'll have plenty of practice riding in "light wind".

12m and a big board. Less wind than that needs will just be an exercise in frustration anyway, unless you go for the specialised equipment...

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Re: 12m or 14m Slingshot Rally for 200 lbs riders ??

Postby SonnyRider » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:31 am

Kamikuza wrote:
Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:25 am
Being a 200lb rider, he'll have plenty of practice riding in "light wind".

12m and a big board. Less wind than that needs will just be an exercise in frustration anyway, unless you go for the specialised equipment...
Agreed, the 'light winds' (for us) is 'normal' winds for lighter people.
Spent many a time frustrated at not being able to get out, but watch my GF @ 70kgs happily kiting for hours. :evil:

Unless you are 200lbs, you'll never understand


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