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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby Skywalker7 » Wed May 02, 2018 7:06 am

Flysurfer Infinity 3.0 bar has one of the shortest chickenloop and the bar throw can be set to whatever size. Usually smaller people have smaller weights, so they can use smaller kites, so the shorter bar throw can work for them on smaller kites. The barstick is also one of thinnest bar in diameter.

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby k2thiago » Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 am

grigorib wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 2:13 am
Anyone with personal experience?
I have short arms myself being 160 cm tall. I have done some research looking specifically for bars that would help and found that airush and naish has bars models specifically designed for small persons. However I'm using a core sensor pro, the clamcleat height is adjustable, but you need to ajust the line lengths after move the cleat. Also moving the cleat will reduce the depower capability, and the person need to be more carefull when trimming (reducing the power) the kite, as the “fat grey line” that is part of the trim/ safety system can go trought the metal rings and possibly get stuck in the advent of QR activation. I am not sure if this is a general weakness of the sensor bar design or it is specific from my bar.
I have tried the slingshot with below the bar trim system, i found a bit tricky, but with few sessions i would get used I suppose.

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby Cab Driver » Wed May 02, 2018 7:26 pm

grigorib wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 2:13 am
Anyone with personal experience?
My wife is 5'2" and uses F!reball with a Recoil control system. She can reach the trim and this system doesn't have any loose lines or tails whipping around. She rides in a waist harness. As stated above, a seat harness will make it even easier to utilize the full range of a control system if you have short arms.

One thing of note, using a rope slider while on toeside really INCREASES the distance the bar must be pushed to depower or to reach the trim. Just an FYI.

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby slowboat » Wed May 02, 2018 7:47 pm

Get rid of the chicken loop then I’ll bet most bars will work. Both north and SS have this option

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby grigorib » Wed May 02, 2018 11:14 pm

Cab Driver wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 7:26 pm
grigorib wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 2:13 am
Anyone with personal experience?
My wife is 5'2" and uses F!reball with a Recoil control system. She can reach the trim and this system doesn't have any loose lines or tails whipping around. She rides in a waist harness. As stated above, a seat harness will make it even easier to utilize the full range of a control system if you have short arms.

One thing of note, using a rope slider while on toeside really INCREASES the distance the bar must be pushed to depower or to reach the trim. Just an FYI.
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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby RosItalia » Wed May 02, 2018 11:19 pm

If your bar have a clamcleat you can decide where put it. You can move along depower line and choose lenght you prefer. I prefer clamcleat near than 10 cm of bar's stroke.

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby Makogirl » Sat May 05, 2018 9:23 pm

very good question but no one really answered it.... we have the bar and we don t want to change it, we don t want to wear sit harness. any real solution ???

how about a stopper ball ? I can t reach the bar if I let go, I haved send a message to Cabrinha,, I don t beleive there is no kid or womens on the circuit that haven t found a solution.... just bought 4 drifters and trim lite bar and this problem got to be solve... riding waves and loosing your bar makes a catastrophie..
thanks for your help..

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby Makogirl » Sat May 05, 2018 9:25 pm

RosItalia wrote:
Wed May 02, 2018 11:19 pm
If your bar have a clamcleat you can decide where put it. You can move along depower line and choose lenght you prefer. I prefer clamcleat near than 10 cm of bar's stroke.
Hi,,, can we buy clam cleat ? if yes where ?

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby ShaveTheWhales » Sun May 06, 2018 2:26 am

A plain stopper ball will do fine - Remember, if you shorten the throw your windrange will be less also and have to be extra careful in stronger winds..

Look up the "Bye Bye chickenloop" thread also - for your best Options..

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Re: Which bar for petite person / shorter arms

Postby grigorib » Sun May 06, 2018 2:29 am

Makogirl wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:23 pm
very good question but no one really answered it.... we have the bar and we don t want to change it, we don t want to wear sit harness. any real solution ???

how about a stopper ball ? I can t reach the bar if I let go, I haved send a message to Cabrinha,, I don t beleive there is no kid or womens on the circuit that haven t found a solution.... just bought 4 drifters and trim lite bar and this problem got to be solve... riding waves and loosing your bar makes a catastrophie..
thanks for your help..
My conclusions from hearing all the advice are following:
1. You can use a bar with ajustable position of clam cleat above-the-bar (also serving as a stopper) (e.g. Slingshot Sentinel)
2. You can use a bar with a stopper ball and below-the-bar depower
3. You can use Cabrinha bar with Recoil or North Click or Ocean Rodeo Stick Shift bar
4. You can use seat harness
5. You can use shorter chickenloop (e.g. Slingshot Talon, North, etc) to shorten overall assembly

Many of those I don't like and wouldn't suggest but #1,#2,#5 and #4 for kids specifically sound pretty reasonable.


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