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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby tegirinenashi » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:26 pm

This brilliant comment was posted on WUWT:
"One thing for certain if the Global Warmunists get their way, there will be no toilet paper, even though they are promising free $hit."

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby jumptheshark » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:37 pm

We should absolutely move beyond toilet paper.

You get shit on any other part of your person, your sure as shit not just going to wipe it off with a bit of tissue. Your gonna wash that shit off!

Look, its all been laid out. Others have fleshed out that this argument is not simply about the planet warming, but our stewardship of our finite environment.

It's clear a few of you feel things are just fine. End of discussion. Dragging it out thread after thread is simply trolling.



Lets hear about your kiting prowess, show us some pics of how you shred.

It's a kite forum.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:21 am

This is from Eisenhower's Farewell Address in 1961

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been over shadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:16 am

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby SimonP » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:19 am

LOL. If you knew your history you would know that Eisenhower was concerned about the military–industrial complex where the defense industry had far too much vested interest in public policy.
Public policy in your country is now made by ignorant morons who pay no attention to scientific knowledge or economic fundamentals. Vested interests still predominate, but these days it is the lobby groups and foreign nationals who fund their political campaigns.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:42 am

SimonP wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:19 am
LOL. If you knew your history you would know that Eisenhower was concerned about the military–industrial complex where the defense industry had far too much vested interest in public policy.
Now it's different. They say give us 2.4 Trillion $$$ or the planet will boil...while the ice is growing and the snow is falling. Nice try. You are getting 0 $ because I am Marl and you are not. :rollgrin:

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:17 pm

Canada will save the world. :rollgrin: Prime Minister with Climate Change Minister :rollgrin:

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby Pemba » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:46 pm

marlboroughman wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:42 am
SimonP wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:19 am
LOL. If you knew your history you would know that Eisenhower was concerned about the military–industrial complex where the defense industry had far too much vested interest in public policy.
Now it's different. They say give us 2.4 Trillion $$$ or the planet will boil...while the ice is growing and the snow is falling. Nice try. You are getting 0 $ because I am Marl and you are not. :rollgrin:
I think the ice is not growing. It's melting. But I guess that your bullshit detector filters out the articles that say that. The problem is average global temperature, not the earliest date that snow falls in Kansas. Unless there is a relation between the two, the earliness of snowfall in Kansas is irrelevant here. You appear to be taking a lot of this (global warming) personal and directed against the US. I don't think it is. I think the US as a whole does better than most countries fighting global warming. The plastic waste produced in China and other countries you posted an article on earlier is obviously also terrible and should also be acted on (everywhere), I'm sure we can all agree to that. Unless there are other bullshit detectors out there..

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby tegirinenashi » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:54 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:37 pm
...this argument is not simply about the planet warming, but our stewardship of our finite environment...
You imply the green church has all the answers? I'd suggest it is fundamentally disconnected from the reality.

1. Humans vs nature dichotomy is the norm. Humans as part of nature never even enter the thought. Something only someone utterly disconnected from nature, only someone who lives in modern city could think.
2. "West is uniquely anti-nature and pro-human". Reality is, it's the most anti-human and pro-nature. You need not look beyond how shamelessly people outside West dump their waste, or where the plastic garbage filling the oceans comes from to see that "think of the nature before yourself" attitude is utterly absent outside the West beyond a few village idiot types.
3. Strange empathy towards other species that assumes that other species can be more valuable than their own. Not a single creature on this entire planet follows this philosophy in their actions. Nor does overwhelming majority of people, luckily, as this attitude is self-exterminationist. This mindset is almost uniquely locked to the certain parts of modern Green movement, which can commonly be described as "medieval nature worship" - worship of idealized view of nature as something beautiful, that human tarnish. Without ever realising that nature in reality is the bloodiest, most brutal, most amoral and unethical state of being, by definition.

This mode of thinking is utterly absent outside West, and represents a tiny and vocal minority among even the Green movement itself. It's unfortunate that it's increasingly taking over the movement, and its various forms ranging from deranged animal activists from PETA to vegan extremists violently attacking people eating meat dishes in restaurants are increasingly taking control over the movement that used to be quite close to nature and very much pro-"humans as a part of nature" narrative rather than "humans against nature" one that is advanced here.

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Re: Is anyone else buying carbon credits to offset CO2 from travel?

Postby jumptheshark » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:05 pm

How's your kite game Tegir? You rockin the foil these days? Put a bulbous nose on it yet?


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