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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:22 pm 
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I haven't tried the stripper gloves yet, but will be recommending it to everyone that buys a suit from me. That's for sure. Sounds like a good idea.

So far, I haven't needed to wear neoprene socks/booties or gloves. The suit actually keeps me so warm that I can stand on the cold sand, or grass, and even though my feet may get a little cold, I'm still comfortable. When the water gets in the 40s and the air temp drops more, I will need to use the socks and gloves.

One thing, I tucked the neoprene socks in under the ankle seals and I got wet from it. Its better to have the Pyro ankle seals up against your skin, and put the socks, or booties OVER the suit seal. I was completely dry after 4 hours with this.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:09 pm 
How much are you paying for the Pyro if you don't mind me asking? I looked at them last year and they seemed very expensive. Bare Wetsuits make a suit called the Ultra Dry which is the same baggy style suit and it cost me $299 US. I used it and was pleased with how I was dry just like you are with the Pyro. Also, Oneil makes a baggy style Dry suit that I think sells for about $379 to $400. The Pyro looks like it is made well but I though it was pretty expensive last year. maybe it has come down.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:23 pm 
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suggested retail is still $500, but they can be found for as little as $400. this is still pretty expensive, but if you've seen one in person you'll understand. it's about durability. the pyro is super tough and should stand up to much more abuse (hard crashes, beach drags, rail/fin impacts, etc.) than any other dry suit. the flex panels also add the mobility that kitesurfers appreciate.

i was a bit apprehensive when i first shelled out the cash for mine, but after using it and comparing it to other suits, i feel like it's worth every cent.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:41 pm 
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Well, that may be true (I sell them for $450), but they are pretty durable and excellent construction. I have great mobility in the suit, as well. I was dragged across some rocks and shells (water was 6-12" deep mmaking me think the suit was screwed, but to my surprise the suit came out without a scratch)

Everyone that's seen it comments on how much better it looks to be made/constructed to all the drysuits they have seen in the past. FWIW.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:43 pm 
how is sizing worked on dry suits? based on height or weight cause I'm a tall thin bastard.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:07 pm 
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not sure how this will look (i cut and pasted it from excell
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SIZE HEIGHT WEIGHT WAIST INSEAM
XXS 5'1 - 5'2 155-157cm 80-100lbs 36-45kg 22"to 26" 29"
XS 5'3 - 5'4 160-163cm 100-120lbs 45-54kg 25"to 28" 30"
S 5'5 - 5'6 165-168cm 120-140lbs 54-64kg 27"to 30" 31"
M 5'7 - 5'8 170-173cm 140-160lbs 64-73kg 29"to 32" 32"
MT 5'8 - 5'9 173-175cm 140-160lbs 64-73kg 29"to 32" 33"
L 5'10 - 5'11 179-180cm 160-180lbs 73-82kg 31"to 34" 33"
LT 5'11 - 6' 179-183cm 160-180lbs 73-82kg 31"to 34" 34
XL 6' - 6'1 183-186cm 180-200lbs 82-9kg 33"to 36" 34
XXL 6'2 - 6'3 188-191cm 200-220lbs 91-100kg 35"to 38" 34.5





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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 4:36 am 
Dry suits are awesome, no question about that. But when I hear people saying they wear regular pants and shirts under the suits, I get scared. Remember, if you have an extended swim, the drysuit itself will not provide much insulation. You can go hypothermic pretty damn fast even with a suit on if you are not dressed warm enough for the water temp, not air temp. Wear some warm fleece, or better yet, put on your 3.2 wetsuit under it. that way you have insulation and you are covered if you blow a seal, get a tear, etc. These things can happen, do happen, and will eventually happen to you if you ride long enough. STAY SAFE!!!@!!


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I justt bought a Typhoon Alpha from the UK and it is a diag dry zip across the chest , has latex feet and i breathable. Havent tried it yet but will let you all know. the thing about this one is cost - 220 GBP. i think thats about 350 USD ?

Will let y'all know.


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I wore my wetsuit under it yesterday, actually. I felt it kinda defeated the purpose. Putting on a cold wetsuit under the drysuit, but once I warmed it up, it was fine. I wear my PFD either under or over the Pyro, so if anything happens, I get the extra float. But you're right, if anything happens...hard to imagine, but it could. As I stated previously, I was dragged through some <12" deep water with shells and rocks on the bottom and the butt of the suit was unharmed. Comparing to the two drysuits I saw the windsurfers wearing, the pyro was better-built. Its going to take a while, or something severe, to damage this suit.

Plus if you get a leak, I don't think fleece will be any different than jeans. Basically, stay close to shore in the winter and never kite in wind that will blow you off the shore (summer or winter)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:36 pm 
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Isn't there a risk with dry suits that if you rip them when out, they can fill up with water so that you struggle to swim, and maybe even drown. Also the cold water coming in won't help !

Or are they now mad tough ?


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