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Yes, maybe I overstated myself...I have not tried every bar.
Believe me it started simply enough and it just spiralled out of control!
You have to admitt the swivel is pretty cool though.

Hey. go look on the opening page of kitesurfpr.com at the roto bar Patent Pending.
Great product.

way too many parts for me. I prefer to keep it as simple as possible.

Its only a swivel that is added, and its actually really light weight.
While everyone is not as psyched as I was about this solution, the continued posts and hits on this and related topics clearly show the entire community is in need of a better system...doesn't it?

hhhhoooollllyyyyyy !@#$ dude, that is so complex, and expencive i suspect, and heavy..........the best solution to twisted lines is just doing a trick that spins the oppisite way.......it keeps your bar free from tangles, your safty system safe, and your wallet full.....plus it makes you a better kiter in different moves and tacks

Ok this is getting out of hand. I can only say this so many times...is a swivel really that complex?

the ball-beared swivel is a good idea.
but what about adding it to a single wichard-version?

it would be smaller, cheaper, rotating ...
advantages: it could be used with every bar and the adjuster still remains.

I think it is a very solid solution to the problem. I personally was headed that direction (two shackles, etc) but I have decided that I like the quick release chicken loops better (less hardware, more affordable).

I think the ball-bearing swivel thing is a great idea. Maybe somebody should make a shackle the will freely rotate under heavy loads

Keep up the good work.

On 2002-10-22 14:48, Royce wrote:
Hey. go look on the opening page of kitesurfpr.com at the roto bar Patent Pending. Great product.

Is this available yet? Is there a way to take a closer look at the spreader bar? I can only see a photo on the front page but no link to details. I like that it can be used with any bar.