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Andres_Santacruz
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Postby Andres_Santacruz » Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:13 am


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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:51 am

Hi Andres
Is it possible Psycho 9.5 and Psycho 12.5 to have the same upper wind range :25 knots

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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:29 am

i was in on 12.5 psycho 27knts 70% of depower!But:95kgr 153 loose.so dont take the written numbers so sirius.

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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:30 am

On 2002-10-24 10:29, Anonymous wrote:
i was in on 12.5 psycho 27knts 70% of depower!But:95kgr 153 loose.so dont take the written numbers so sirius.

kpipis(that was me,

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Postby mmunzer » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:45 am

The 9.5 will have a much higher wind range than 25. I could handle 25 no problem with a warrior 9.3 and the psycho is much more depower friendly than the warrior.

The most wind I have been out with the 9.5 psycho was around 22 knots gusting to 28 or so and I was no where near overpowered. I still had the full trim strap left.

So 25 knots is definately not the limit for the 9.5.

Best regards,

Marc
GoExtreme.dk

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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:22 pm

Mark, What do you think the low end is for the psycho 9.5? Also have you been using the 15.5? When would you get uncomfortable with that kite?
Hill

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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:43 pm

How about the 15.5 in similar conditions. Could a 95kg rider on a 150tt / tray stay on the water?

I think a real 10 to 25 knot(98% of peoples riding conditions kite would be a huge jump in tecnology.

Thanks

Mike

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Andres_Santacruz
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Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:00 am
Kiting since: 2000
Local Beach: Laguna de Tecocomulco, Hidalgo, Mexico. Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico.
Boca del Rio, Veracruz, Mexico.
Favorite Beaches: Progreso, Yucatan. El Revolcadero, Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico. La Ventana, Baja California Sur, Mexico. Ilho do Guajiru, Ceara, Brazil.
Style: Big Air and waves and freestyle.
Gear: Kites:
4m Ozone Reo 2012
7m Ozone Edge 2012
8m Ozone Catalyst 2012
12m Ozone Reo 2013
13m Ozone Edge 2013
14m Ozone Catalyst 2013

Boards:
Cabal SX51 Skimboard
ASP Stealth Custom Kiteboard 135cm 2013
Tona Pop 138cm with LF Kite Vantage bindings
Xenon Rayo 145*44 2011
Underground Kipuna 5'8" Surfboard
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Postby Andres_Santacruz » Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:34 pm

Hi,
I have not used the psycho yet, i think the top end of the 9.5 psycho is higher as well. If you have seen the fuerteventura flysurfer pics, you can see a guy flying with the 15.5 psycho(red and Black), this is ted bautista, and the 15.5 is just about the only kite he uses in most windspeeds(yes, 25 knots). I believe he is over 100 kilos though, and he is a pro rider as well.
The 9.5 should easily be taken to 30. I have taken my warrior 9.3 to 27 on a 138 loose EX.
The max top end on the 15.5 should be around 22 knots for us mortals.
Good winds,
Andres

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Postby mmunzer » Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:36 pm

Hi Mike,

The warrior 9.3 was already a 10-25 knot kite with a 160 cm board... 15-30 knot kite with a wakeboard...

The psycho should be able to go as low, but because of the more agressive power up function, most people will stall the kite too often and get frustrated in winds below around 14 knots. Secret is not to try to power up too much in low winds. Probably similar to an X2 or Mach1...

The upper wind limit is going to be at least around 30 knots if not higher. Only launching is a problem at that high wind speed. Once it is launched, it should be no problem staying in control.

The day I was out in gust of 28 knots I was fully in control. And the conditions were really gnarly 1m short high swells and really gusty winds. Those are usually the kind of conditions which take at least 5 knots off my top end because I can't maintain a clean edge.

I haven't tried the 15.5 on the water yet...

Best regards,

Marc
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Postby Guest » Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:57 pm

mark.
the 12 physio goes in about 2-3 knots less than the warrior, having ridden both the 9 and the 12 of each type back to back extensively, i can guaranteee this.

however the physios are trickier kites to fly in low winds due to the bar action. but then again most people who flew the warriors in light winds always made the mistake of pulling the power in when what they should have been doing was picking up board speed and trying to use as much depower as possible.


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