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 Post subject: Eyewitness News of Miami Kiting
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 1:06 am 
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All these incident happened just in the past few month and I have many other witnesses I’d like describe so everybody can see how careless people are about this new sport in Miami for the records.

Saturday, at my local spot in Matheson Hammock Park the conditions were 12 gusting to 18 mph winds onshore from the N.E. Two beginners showed up with a Black Tip 12.2 Cabrinha, my friend Tim informed them of the “Flying Rules”. Beginners in all cases must walk out far away from the shore to stay, and keep others safe. They mentioned being informed of out site as being one of the best places to learn. Warnings given by a friend who is very active helping people. Here I just call him “Enforcer” were not seriously taken since Enforcer had to go and let them know again of the rules out there since they were flying the kite too close to the shore. This time Enforcer was a bit more aggressive.

I was out for a while, decided to come in and came in then Enforcer went out. Enforcer came in, left his kite on the grass deflated flat out ready to roll it up while he was responding to questions from a couple of visitors on how to get started. He pointed out how people can get in trouble when they ignore the conditions and rules. Suddenly I looked up and saw one of the young muscular beginner, without a life vest, or helmet being dragged through the rocks. His shorts were ripped off from his body, and then went through Enforcer’s kite ripping it in multiple places. He continued to fly naked over cars and parking lot while the kite stayed in the power zone traveling and spiraling at high rates of speed. First the guy landed between two cars and than lofting again, and smashing into a van leaving a big dent. This process was repeated again smashing into two other cars.

Finally Enforcer, the visitor, and a third guy caught up with him holding him down while Enforcer unhooked him from the harness. Unfortunately, he was hooked into the permanent loop and could not let the bar go without using any means of Quick release system. After releasing the kite finally landed on a tree by the restaurant. The visitor received a 6” long deep cut across his leg; his jeans were also ripped of course. We don’t know how, but we do guess it was the control bar after being released.
The poor guy was lying face down on the ground while we told him not to move while we placed a call to a 911 operator. He was conscious but bleeding a lot from multiple places, and a lot of bruising.

By the way, loosing my shorts and harness is something that I’m very familiar with. At that time I was still learning and using a board-leash which was hooked into my harness. It was a low tide day, and very gusty SE. As soon as I launched the kite, the wind picked up lifting me up 12’ and flying through the air while the board was anchored to the muck. People on the shore of course whistling for the show. Now you could understand how I lost my shorts, and harness. After that, I decided not to wear a board leash ever again, and also have a snap shackle for quick release so I am hooked into the chicken loop to de-power the kite while launching.

There was another incident I witnessed about a month ago. Conditions were 12 to 14 mph N.E. onshore.
A beginner who from up north claiming to take lessons in Miami, said he knew how to launch a kite. After explaining step by step on how to do this, I asked to help me launch my kite since nobody else was around. As I was entering the water, I could tell he was having problems handling my kite. Suddenly he let it go before I was ready and the kite flew into the No Parking sign leaving 6” cut on fabric.

On top of all that, right after the incident a girl was out flying a 9.2 Cabrinha got dragged towards the shore and crashed the kite almost knocking my head off. The kite launched again and dangerously now near the shore being dragged again while I was yelling for her to let the bar go. Finally, she ended at the edge by the shore with the kite landing on the parking lot.

After this and very unlucky day, I spoke with both girls and made them aware of the danger in learning in this types condition without any help from someone that knows what they are doing. The girl who was flying mentioned she already took 4 hrs lessons on water from a well-known teacher. Luckily she was ok!

Let me mention the most unbelievable case about 2 month ago. An older guy came with his wife and trying to “rig-up” the kite for about 2hrs. Finally his wife helped to launch the kite in about 10 mph wind and the kite landed on a tree. Several of us helped to take it down and finding out that the L.E. was only half way blown up and 2 lines (front and back) were mixed up on one end. We helped him to re-launch to fly the kite while his wife was mentioning this is the last time helping with a kite. She was laughing and bragging about the husband that he is a pilot and already crashed 2 airplanes. First time ran out of gasoline and second time forgot to bring the landing gear down.

Let’s not forget my friend “pinky”. Well, not exactly his name but it does come to mind every once in a while. About 5 month ago walking out of the water and holding his kite in hand, he made the mistake to leave lines over the kite, and too close to hand and fingers. Another kiter out of control lifted upwind of him and being dragged ran into him, ripping his kite right of the hand and only to find out that he was now missing the end portion of the right pinky finger. He is now ok and flying. This is one mistake that could have been avoided by maybe both kiters.

I hope this is a lesson for all beginners and even teachers to learn from.
Any comments are welcome. How to avoid serious injuries, police the area, and enforcing the Rules of Flying which is very important in order to be alive and to fly at our Park.

DrLW


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 2:21 am 
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Sounds like a fun place to ride! You guys sure have your hands full down there. How long would you estimate before kiteboarding in Miami is banned entirely if things continue on the track that they are?

This is why I avoid the Miami area altogether. I think I mentioned it before in another post. I would hate to have an incident there causing a ban to be placed on you guys, so I just steer clear of your area.

I cant believe all of this is going on even with all the efforts of guys like you, Rick and Enforcer are putting forth. Un-fugging-believable! GET A CLUE PEOPLE!

I personally believe in each and every rideron the water being educated in the same general way and have a good working knowledge of the rules. I know that's a hard task to accomplish and even harder with larger populations. That's whats kept us in the clear in the Bay area for so long and to date, we are still cruising full speed ahead into the future with no signs of bans or other negative results. I'd like for our luck/success to serve as a positive example of how kiteboarding could/should be handled in your area.

Keep trying! You have my support.

Johnny


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 2:22 am 
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Great stories Bela, thanks for the detailed accounts.

Eye Witness News reminds me of the one time the local newspaper photographer was at our launch site getting the "scoop" on how cool kitesurfing is from our resident kite instructor. While they're talking, this happens about 100m away.

Someone let a new guy demo a 1120 ARC, so he walks down the beach trying out the kite.

One of the regulars is on a tack parrallel and near the shore and crosses the lines of the ARC that's flying ovehead at neutral.

Turned out that the new guy flying the ARC didn't even know what the leash was for. He had a death grip on the bar and just would not let go. As the entwined kites started to do their dance, the ARC flyer was picked up like a rag doll thrown down on the sand and then he took a second helping. Even after all that I had to yell to the guy, LET GO of the bar! as I ran down the beach and secured both kites.

The ARC flyer said that his arm hurt. (no obvious fractures) He was lucky I think.

Dix



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:44 pm 
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Additionally above all except the locals (which I consider the people who have been coming and windsurfing here for a couple of years now converted to kiting)some claim to be locals probably true but are now coming here we guess because of the spectators and crowd to show off.
Can you guys imagine they have no consideration about the safety inspite of the fact we told them to follow the "Rules". They show off and turn dangerously inches by the shore and additionally jumping.
All above that they are the one who don't want to use any Q.R. or wrist leash for safety. Of course all the visitors from other places so called "pros" are doing the same.
Please say something anybody can hear me?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:48 pm 
This sport is extremely dangerous. I cut my left hand trying to stop this guy after hitting the white van. I'm glad he is OK.

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Welcome to the joys of trying to maintain access. Human nature can be a daunting thing. I try not to make much mention of Math. Hammock in an effort to keep the rider load there to a minimum. As you have explained, the launch already has its share of problems like most others in the county.

At any rate, you guys are doing a nice job with the boundary bouys and trying to get the local riders to pull together to keep the launch open. Absent kite cops, we have to rely upon good tactful discussion to try to keep us all flying. Don't leave all the heavy work up to TB or the "Enforcer", I assume. It is going to take concerned involvement by riders everywhere both at this and other launches in the more populated areas to keep us flying.

Keep up the good work,
Rick Iossi

p.s. Hi Victor! Sorry to hear about your hand, this sport is dangerous!


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Thank you Rick,
I'd like to or we contact with you about membership etc.
Bela


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A little advice for people who let not kiters launch their kites. I know it should not be practiced as a standard, but it has happend a few times that I have required the assistance of a non kiter or more for launching my kite. I find the best way to do this, is to pick up the kite first. Hold it by the leading edge bladder as if you were carrying it into the wind - i.e. least resistance. Only now explain to the helper (presume adrenaline filled, over excited, unaware of the potential danger, so-and-so) what to do, stating clearly "hold the kite ONLY like this - with both hands, do NOT do anything else!!" Then make sure to tell him to let go only when you give him a thumbs up signal.

Now, he will hold it for dear life, you can run back to the bar and get the lines almost tight. As they tighten, the natural thing to do for a in-the-know helper is to move the hands along the bladder, closer to the tip of the kite, as when the lines come tight, the kite will want to climb anyway. The non-knowing helper will see that the kite is wanting to lift off now, (You need to make sure that your lines are on RIGHT, as he will be no help here) now you should be ready to launch and you should be able to give the signal...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:09 am 
Saftey? who you fooling not me. This is exactly why i posted Today. This sort of thing goes on everywhere kites are flown. We all think we are trying to promote saftey, face it the easier we make it look the more rookies are going to get dinged up. I get knocked for beeing negative,let me clue ya in I'm tellen the truth!! I do not have an answer,I am not happy about it, I see this clearly, people are getting hurt,and we are the problem! So what do we do? talk about importance of saftey in a decidedly unsafe sport? I'd rather kite than pretend kites can be safe, and kiters are saftey minded. after all thats clearly bullshit!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 3:00 am 
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Yah, i agree,

this is the only safety equipment i'll ever need.
<img src=http://wetstuff.com/kite/Safety_harness.jpg>

ripped from wetstuff.com , OK i hope, thanks






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