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Postby EdDy_DiFfUsIvItY » Mon Nov 25, 2002 5:32 pm

just a thought, what do you all say ?

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Postby chicagokitesurfer » Mon Nov 25, 2002 5:56 pm

Yes. Higher AR will be more prone due to the kite flying further toward the edge of the window. Suble changes in wind will affect kites more the further at the edge it flies. Since its "wind footprint" is smaller, a higher AR kite will also be more of a challenge to recover.

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Postby sq225917 » Mon Nov 25, 2002 7:20 pm

lofting, being unexpectedly picked up.

luffing, falling at the edge or top of the wind.


if you mean lofting, low aspect kites pose more risk.

if luffing higher aspect kites are more likely to.

though nearly all of 2002 kites were really good compared to last years in this respect.

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Postby Guest » Mon Nov 25, 2002 7:35 pm

why would a low apect kite have a greater risk of lofting?

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Postby Mr Jo Macdonald » Mon Nov 25, 2002 7:37 pm

generally lower Ar kites have more lift, can handle less wind and fly further back in the window

However I would say it depends a lot more on how much kite your holding in what wind, what sort of gust hits it and where it is in the window

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Postby chicagokitesurfer » Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:12 pm

Ooops. Misread the original post. However, my answer is the same. The higher AR should loft more, too. More efficient wing...

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Postby sq225917 » Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:53 pm

i disagree strongly.

have you all forgotton how your 20m aero will pick you up and spit you out on a gusty day when your 20m x2 is easy to handle.

explain why the kite with the least vertical lift when static would have the greater tendency to pick you up. higher aspect kites are less efficient vertical lift producing wings when staitc and they have greater depower, typically.

fire them up at an angle yeh, off you go but thats not lofting, thats being dragged down the beach overpowered.

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Postby sq225917 » Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:54 pm

chicago kitesurfer you're not just wrong but you're wrong twice.

no doubt you'll be giving out safety advice as well.

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Postby chicagokitesurfer » Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:35 pm

Because lower AR kites sit back more. Higher AR lift is more perpendicular to the ground lifting you straight up.

Besides, its an opinion...and what's the difference between being lofted 20 feet off the ground and 22 feet off the ground?

Show me one posts where my safety advice is bogus. At least I make positive comments on this thread. Obvioulsy you're an abrasive individual who can't hold a conversation with anyone. Or let me venture another guess...."you're never wrong"

Hey Toby, you got an "ignore" feature?

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Postby Guest » Mon Nov 25, 2002 9:57 pm

On 2002-11-25 20:53, sq225917 wrote:
i disagree strongly.

have you all forgotton how your 20m aero will pick you up and spit you out on a gusty day when your 20m x2 is easy to handle.

explain why the kite with the least vertical lift when static would have the greater tendency to pick you up. higher aspect kites are less efficient vertical lift producing wings when staitc and they have greater depower, typically.

fire them up at an angle yeh, off you go but thats not lofting, thats being dragged down the beach overpowered.





I haven't forgotten!! That 20m AERO is a fun kite in gusty stuff... no give whatsoever...

But in gusty stuff we shouldn't be holding out kites straight above us now should we?

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