Rick I wrote:
Over half of the responding parties stated support for using a tip release snap shackle (TRS) such as a Wichard 2600 series...
I hereby register my vote that a bit more description accuracy may be required. The RELEASE is not at the tip of any snap shackle, only the PIVOT is (sometimes). So we have:
Side PIVOT Shackles (all Pin RELEASE*)
Tip PIVOT Shackles (either Line or Trigger RELEASE)
TP, TR (bad**)
TP, LR (better)
*correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't remember ever seeing one that isn't.
**CAUTION: Not all tip PIVOT shackles (or even 2600 series) are created equal. The Wichard 2655 & 2657 are tip PIVOT but are TRIGGER RELEASE, & have been reported to catch on rings*** AND have much greater potential for jamming with sand since the area below the release lever is enclosed, unlike the 2673 (see my reply to gorgekiteboarder below).
*** although admittedly so has the 2673, but at least IT will release from a plain line loop of any size, so you don't even need to use a ring at all (I don't know if the same is true of the Wichard trigger release models).
I have been learning more about the accident that prompted the launching of this thread and the discussion of snap shackles in the first place. The rider was using a Wichard snap shackle but NOT a TIP RELEASE SHACKLE...
Yes, the Wichard side PIVOT shackles are a rather poor choice, even by comparison to others of that type, since they have unwelded split rings on the release pin.
AND: "gorgekiteboarder <gorgekiteboarder@y...>" wrote:
I used a Tylaska T8 (Tip release?) for almost a year early on.
Yes, the T8 is a tip PIVOT shackle.
After getting dragged a little bit on a sandy beach, the hole behind the trigger was jammed so full with sand that there was absolutely no way to release...
Once again, not all tip PIVOT shackles are created equal. Unlike trigger release shackles, the line release Wichard 2673 is open below the release lever, leaving nothing for sand to jam against.