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Postby Guest » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:41 pm

does anybody remember the old F-one add

"Planning in 8knots" foil kite

Nope, but I did buy my 8.5 wipika classic to kitesurf in 8-18 knots as advertised. MARK

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Postby scotty » Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:57 am

its blowing 10knts here now and shit but I would prefer the 8knt
and all those witecaps here. I might go grab my air matress
and see if i can get 8m air on it
lets quit the foil propaganda :roll:

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Postby vide » Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:54 am

All of this talk is pointless. I used to plane on my 9m Naish AR3.5 in 9knots (on my 6ft directional). But what fun is that. Now I don't bother even with my 20m until the wind is 13knots.

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Postby Peter_Frank » Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:25 pm

All of this talk is pointless. I used to plane on my 9m Naish AR3.5 in 9knots (on my 6ft directional). But what fun is that. Now I don't bother even with my 20m until the wind is 13knots.
You hit the nail right on Vide !

In the early days we were thrilled by just cruising, with and in everything.

Today it does'nt matter much when it is under 13 knots - regardless of kite.
Who cares ?

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Postby Pump me up » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:41 am

8m jumps in 8 knots.

Yeah right.


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Postby Tone » Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:15 pm

im pretty sure back in 2003 we had worked out that Chris Calthrop was talking outta his a$$.

get a new line.

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Postby prep » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:08 am

there is no way i personally believe that is 8 kts. show us some video, of the kite and the wind meter.

one of our beaches here has a huge wind shadow and sitting in the carpark 50m from the water ive often thought its not worth going out. walk 40m to waters edge and it will be 10-13kts, kite out 50m and it will be 25kts.

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Postby Nino_fs » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:43 pm

I am not sure I believe that that pic is actually in 8knts, but anyone saying foils do not have power is wrong. Also different foils can be more or less efficient.

I own a second generation peter lynn Arc 840(11m) and I can fly that kite when others are riding 16m inflatables. I can go just as fast and jump just as high. But the newer arcs have less power per size than inflatables. Same kite from same company but mine gets much better low end.

The Arc is a C shaped kite so with a flatter profile it would be possible to squeeze even more power out of the kite.

The wind range on my kite is 15-30 kph(kilometers per hour) and at 20 kph it has lots of jumping power.

So I could probably do something like that if I had the arc 1400 instead of my little 840.

And I currently also own a RRD type 7 so I fly inflatables and foils.

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Postby bay surfer » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:18 pm

OK you dont believe the old F-one adds you should, those old kites pulled like a MF! yes they would get you up on a plane in 8kts, straight down wind!
But let me take a crack at the PIX, Its winter/spring in south Africa, cold water in warm air, I personally have been planing jumping in flat water, due to these conditions, this is due to the tempurature inversion at the water surface, may be real light 10m's from the ground but crankin uptop.
I would say at least 15 to 20kts up top.

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Postby theadebo » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:20 pm

Chris is a pretty good rider and has always used the Blades (haven't seen him for a while so can't say if he still does) and wake bindings. It's his thing! His style! and he's often very keen to persuade people that that is the best kitesurfing combination there is. Is there some exageration going on with the pic/video? Possibly. There is no doubt that Flexfoils Blade is one of the hiest performance kites out there, but I doubt it's that good.

Sadly, Chris's argument about Blades being the best kites to kitesurf with usually runs into the buffers when, everytime I've seen him out on the water, he's crashed the kite and had to swim in. Same goes for all of the Mini-me Chris's (copy cats) that inhabit the North Kent area.

I'm a kitesurfer not a swimmer, I don't care how efficent the kite is, if it sinks it stinks. End of!

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