I am wonder what people use out there for ,A 8.4 ab and a 11.8ab what would people be using out there.I am asking because i am going to get the S2 lock in bar but , what lenght i have never gone smaller then 70. I was thinking aboout the 60 cm bar but could i still use it with my 11.8?

It depends on whether you use the reverse launch bridles or not. These effectively require duoble the bar motion for the same motion at the kite compared to without bridles. I have found a 65 cm bar works fine for 11.8 and 10 airblast without bridles. I prefer the 50cm bar for the 8.4 and can use it with the 10 also. I think the 60cm s2 would work finefor the 11.8 and 8.4 as long you don't use the bridles. I rodered the 60 for these kites sizes also.

Hey Ryan the 70 will be the best. I use the 60 but go well over powered with the 12m so only small rider input is needed.