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Kite colors: safety concern???

Postby Toby » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:34 pm

Just heard about a story, that someone got forgotten in the water by the recus or supervison service.
It happend to a girl and she was drifting in the water for 5 hours.
She had a problem with the kite and couldn't get it up anymore.
She laid down in the kite and drifted towards the open sea.
One hour before sunset the rescue found out that they forgot her and rescued her.
They needed some time to find her, since she had a blue kite.

Now my question: should every kite be with very bright colors to be spotted faster?
Is this a safety issue?

I always pick bright colors, maybe it will save my life one day....

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Postby TheRussian » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:37 pm

good point.......... dayglo could be back

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Re: Kite colors: safety concern???

Postby heffe » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:56 pm

Toby wrote:Just heard about a story, that someone got forgotten in the water by the recus or supervison service.
It happend to a girl and she was drifting in the water for 5 hours.
She had a problem with the kite and couldn't get it up anymore.
She laid down in the kite and drifted towards the open sea.
One hour before sunset the rescue found out that they forgot her and rescued her.
They needed some time to find her, since she had a blue kite.

Now my question: should every kite be with very bright colors to be spotted faster?
Is this a safety issue?

I always pick bright colors, maybe it will save my life one day....

Greets
Toby
I'm surprised this is only coming up now....I ONLY use kites (well actually "kite" now, but all of the kites I've owned have been bright colors)...for exactly this reason. We play in a place with nasty currents, cold grey water, and heavy shipping traffic to boot...AND should the worst case happen....you could be sucked out into a major great white breeding ground....in fact I ride with a cell phone and coast guard # pre-programmed...it's saved me and others numerous times over the last couple years. (plus we usually use the "buddy system")

I always think of it just as I did back-country snowboarding...ok, something will eventually go wrong, it's just a #'s game....now what are the possibilities...and how are you prepared to deal with it?? Then I go ride with abandon...

-H :thumb:

P.S. Don't know how many great deals on a kite I've passed up because it was black, grey, or something dark...hellooooo

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Re: Kite colors: safety concern???

Postby mx5alan » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:58 pm

Toby wrote:Just heard about a story, that someone got forgotten in the water by the recus or supervison service.
It happend to a girl and she was drifting in the water for 5 hours.
She had a problem with the kite and couldn't get it up anymore.
She laid down in the kite and drifted towards the open sea.
One hour before sunset the rescue found out that they forgot her and rescued her.
They needed some time to find her, since she had a blue kite.

Now my question: should every kite be with very bright colors to be spotted faster?
Is this a safety issue?

I always pick bright colors, maybe it will save my life one day....

Greets
Toby
Safety Issue ? - It would certainly help to spot them out at sea.

same goes with boards. I posted a similar question some time ago about what is the best board colour so it can be seen. If not to heavy could also be waved or held above your head to get attention.

One question... Why didn't she try self rescue ?

Wind the lines and then grab the tips of the kite and try and drag back to the shore possibly a very long walk back up the beach but far better then just floating with the kite for 5 hours.

Good to hear she got back OK.

Where was the location ?

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Postby Freddy B » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:05 am

I've thought about this issue, but I've always liked the blue and green colors. Everyone, I've had has a decent amount of white in it, but this still could be an issue.

I would actually go back to say that knowing the conditions and making sure someone knows where you are kiting is even more important. Divers tend to have bright color strips as well as strobes when they go out, but if they get carried away, the best way to get rescued is to have a buddy or someone who knows where and what conditions you are in. a kite is much easier to find than a diver no matter what the color.

This story should make those at your site think twice about being indifferent to a downed kiter, even if you don't know who they are. If you see someone go down, keep it in you're mind to look for them a few minutes later as well to make sure they aren't getting into an even worse situation.

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Postby Toby » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:21 am

sure, the buddy system is the best.
But what about a saftey call which works via satelite and GPS positioning.
Just like snowboarders have.
And with a rescue button so if something happens, you get rescued.
Does something like this exist?

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Postby RickI » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:51 am

Toby wrote:sure, the buddy system is the best.
But what about a saftey call which works via satelite and GPS positioning.
Just like snowboarders have.
And with a rescue button so if something happens, you get rescued.
Does something like this exist?
Yes, there are a variety of devices that might serve. On that comes to mind is a personal EPIRB unit. One example, that I know nothing about by the way, appears below:

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from: http://boatersland.com/acr2766.html

For about $150. USD it beats losing your gear, extended exposure and perhaps checking out permanently.

For some kiteboarders, amazingly, 200 m is a long way from shore. The reality is that we should be comfortable and competent with extending farther from shore than that and having a variety of means of returning unaided. If all else fails, it is nice to have something reliable to fall back upon like an EPIRB.

There are more expensive units with built in GPS receivers that should substantially cut down the target area for rescurers, for example:

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From: http://www.boatersworld.com/webapp/wcs/ ... at2=343642
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Re: Kite colors: safety concern???

Postby CaptainArgh » Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:02 am

Toby wrote: Now my question: should every kite be with very bright colors to be spotted faster?
Perhaps a kite with a bait-fish pattern.

"...aye mate, this is the kite you want! you'll blend right in with the sea life, sharks won't bother you one bit!..."

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Postby Toby » Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:44 am

that is great stuff, but the GPS unit for 550 USD is a tough call.
Anyway, not much if it will safe your life....

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Postby GregW » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:56 am

It has always struck me as rather silly that kites and boards come in dark colours or even camouflage.

There is no good reason not to use bright colours and it could help in any circumstance where visibility is important.


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