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Postby Bill » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:07 pm

Thinking of replacing my 16m kite. Is the 11m GK Sonic really a replacement for 16m low end?

Do you know if/when GK Sonics will be avialable in the UK and how much?

Cheers.....Bill

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Postby Foxi » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:13 pm

.. and maybe someone could explain to me why such a simple bar solution does it whilest Cab hasn´t simplified anything barwise on their second release called Switchblade.
I really would appreciate but it´s hard to believe that Sonic already has a solution to all bow specific issues discussed over the past weeks.
I´ve learnt that most performance related issues like inferior lift (not hang) and massive bar pressure are minor on smaller sizes of bow concepts, so we need to understand how it looks like on the big Sonic.

To be honest, in general it´s a bit of surprise to me that various good riders I know personally have tested bows and immediately stepped back to their c-shapes. Me included. But I´ve to limit it to 16m experience. The feedback I got personally on bows is not at all represented by current postings in kiteforum. Maybe Toby could start a survey to better understand from which brand forum users switched to Xbows and Novas, only currently available bowkites right at the moment.

I hope I can get my hands on a 9 or 11 bow soon, but my 2 days experience on an 16 Xbow did not even slightly effect my decision to go for a 2006 c-shape kite in this size.

Nevertheless an interesting development and I´m happily looking forward to the industries reply to the seemingly overwhelming demand for 100% depower. Germany is heading straight towards wintertime and I´m happily delaying further quiver decisions and watching you guy´s experiences.

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Re: GK Sonic

Postby GK » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:03 pm

Bill wrote:Thinking of replacing my 16m kite. Is the 11m GK Sonic really a replacement for 16m low end?

Do you know if/when GK Sonics will be avialable in the UK and how much?

Cheers.....Bill
To answer your question Bill... after flying the 11m Sonic in a wide variety
of conditions, I really dont think it will replace a 16m c kite. But, it will
definitely replace a 9m, 12m, and 14m and maybe even a 7m. We tested
it aginst a 12m Curl (which is a pretty grunty 12) and the Sonic definitely
had more pull. The day before that I flew it comfortably in 40mph gusts.
Insane range.

The whole key to the flight charachteristics is the KPO system that Mat
Pendle designed. It flies the kite perfectly balanced on the front lines. You
can fly the kite over your head with no lines on it by just holding the two
pulleys. The kite will hover in one place and balance itself in the gusts! You
can do this with a foil, but it wont rock like the Sonic. The Sonic rocks back
and forth to depower itself in gusts but stays perfectly balanced. Its the
worlds first SmartKite!
The bar pressure is so lite that you have to be carefull not to sheet in past
the sweet spot. Especially when jumping, you have to let the kite breath
by letting the bar out. When riding unhooked, make sure the front lines
are pulled in enough to let the kite fly fast and you will get incredibly high
floaty jumps. Its a nice kite.

GK

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Postby Bill » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:34 pm

Thanks for the reply GK. Is there a size bigger than the 11m? Will that replace the 16m? Is it a fast flying kite? Have been used to a 16m Airush Lift.



Thanks...Bill

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Postby GK » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:52 pm

Bill wrote:Thanks for the reply GK. Is there a size bigger than the 11m? Will that replace the 16m? Is it a fast flying kite? Have been used to a 16m Airush Lift.
This thing flies very fast. It turns fast and accelerates really fast when its set
properly. Its very much a front line flier, like the Airush lift. It has a ton of
lift like a high AR kite but it turns faster than any low AR I've flown.
They are making a 14m also, which should replace 16m - 20m. I guess
we'll see. I can't wait to take a trip with only two kites!

GK

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Postby Marty » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:18 pm

I dont have a bow kite, but

could you use a GK bar
on a Cabrinha?

-Marty 8)

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Postby GK » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:06 pm

Marty wrote:I dont have a bow kite, but

could you use a GK bar
on a Cabrinha?

-Marty 8)
No!! That would cause mass disruption in the universe!


No, seriously, the x-bow requires a 2:1 purchase on the back lines in order
to utilize the full range of the kite. The Sonic only needs half as much bar
range to do the same job. The bars are definitely not interchangeable.

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BS

Postby stuntc » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:28 pm

The Crossbow requires the 2 to 1 ratio in order to fully depower the kite the GK can not do the same with a fixed rear line. You can not compare the two, and I suggest anyone who wants to fly them both head to head. To say that the GK requires half the distance to depower is BS. The Crossbow is way safer with way more more performance, and its been tested by hundreds of true riders.

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Re: BS

Postby GK » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:33 pm

stuntc wrote:The Crossbow requires the 2 to 1 ratio in order to fully depower the kite the GK can not do the same with a fixed rear line. You can not compare the two, and I suggest anyone who wants to fly them both head to head. To say that the GK requires half the distance to depower is BS. The Crossbow is way safer with way more more performance, and its been tested by hundreds of true riders.
Wow, sorry you've been so misguided! You are right about one thing, you
can't compare the two. The Sonic absolutely depowers 100%, and you've
obviously never flown one or seen one. Less mechanism makes it much
safer, less to go wrong. When you see one in person, you'll understand.

By the way, what exactly is a 'true rider'?

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Postby Mattdog » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:19 am

How do you self launch the Sonic? The 05 Rapture tube is so big you cant fold it and sand it.

Can you use a regular control bar with about 16" of throw with the Sonic or must you use its own bar. If so, why?


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