We're on the same page here. Let me tell you a story
Yesterday I tested the 2003 Lift 15.5 vs Toro2 16m.
The turning quickness was a hair slower and the bar pressure a hair higher on the Lift, when compared against the Toro2, although so close,
some might disagree. The Lift did not sit farther forward in the window, or seem racy by any means. The Lift did require more attention for hands free flying. The Toro2 would auto-fly itself. The most significant difference was smoothness of power. I felt small punches from the wind on the Lift. Almost like turbulence from a kite passing upwind of me, but far less intensity. These are very tiny pulses in the kite. (The Lift is a real good kite, I don't want anyone to think otherwise). I thought maybe the wind was punchy. Then I switched and rode the Toro2. The wind felt "buttery smooth". A sweat difference for sure. There was something better about the Toro2 profile that the wind was seeing.
I wondered why the Lift felt this way. We know it's famous for being a flat racy X2 like kite. Well, this is what I was told when I asked someone wiser than me.
"It's hard to get consistent power with a flat profile. The wind sees a bunch of curve at the LE, then flat. The transition is too sudden."
The Toro2 is a high aspect kite, like the AR5 and ARX, but not a flying ribbon, like the X2 or Rhino2. The Toro2 immediately gives you the feeling of being "at home again". It's amazing to be so comfortable on the water with a fast turning kite. It must be the supreme stability and smoothness of flight that contributes to this. The Toro2 has great range and stays out front, yet doesn't go to the extreme. I really expected the 2003 Lift to be way racier and be way out front compared to the Toro2. I didn't think the Toro2 would match up in this area because the kite is so user friendly. I was wrong, the Toro2 does match up to the Lift. It is not a low aspect dog. It's every bit the equal to many high aspect kites, yet with that fun feeling. It gives up a slight bit to the Rhino2 in hang time, yet still far exceeds the hang time of "ALL" 2002 kites.
So you can see, its a truely high performance kite that can kick the ass of anything built in 2002. I'm getting the best jumps of my life. My jump height and hang time with the 16m is better than what I got with a 12m kite last year. That's going huge by any standard.
I will be riding all Toro2s this year and selling my Rhino2s.
The important point here is, these kites, Toro2 and maybe Aero2, now have performance high enough to take customers away from kites like the X3, Lift, Rhino2, etc.