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Naish Suing Best

Postby KHawaii » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:41 am

Wow, Naish (Nalu Kai) is suing Best over their push-out quick release. Toby was pushing for the push-out release to be standard. Wouldn't everyone have to pay Naish for the patent?
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court- ... _id-69946/
Whatever happened to the bow patent lawsuits?

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby Windrider » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:50 am

Interesting. Wondering if Best did their homework before manufacturing their current design to check on existing patents that might be infringed on? What other manufacturers have a potentially patent-infringing design for a push-away release? Is Naish suing Best as a warning shot to everyone else, or is the Best release the only one that is so very similar to the Naish patent? I don't know the Naish QR enough to know what about it is patented? Just the concept of a push-away release? Or some special design for the push-away mechanics?

To me, its a little odd because I don't think that push-away QRs are the preferable design. A pull-towards QR is a much more natural reflexive motion in an emergency, espcially when you may be being pulled at 15 knots through the water by a looping kite..... Pull-towards over push-away anyday! but... who owns a patent on the pull-towards QR????

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby PAFF » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:01 am

Parties District Court Judge Type of Lawsuit Cause of Action
December 5, 2008
Nalu Kai Incorporated v. Ride Best, LLC HI GILLMOR Patent Federal Question
Plaintiff: Nalu Kai Incorporated; Defendant: Ride Best, LLC

August 12, 2008
Nalu Kai Incorporated v. Neil Pryde Limited HI EZRA Patent Federal Question
Plaintiff: Nalu Kai Incorporated; Defendant: Neil Pryde Limited

March 30, 2007
Ritzmann v. Da Kine Hawaii, Inc. et al TX Southern Kent Tort Product Liability Diversity-Product Liability
Plaintiff: Michael Ritzmann; Defendant: Da Kine Hawaii, Inc., Nalu Kai, Inc.

August 23, 2006
Nalu Kai Incorporated v. North Sports, Inc. HI KAY Other Contract Diversity-Breach of Contract
June 1, 2006
Nalu Kai Incorporated v. Boards & More GMBH HI GILLMOR Patent Patent Infringement
Nalu Kai, Inc. v. Neil Pryde Limited HI KAY Patent Patent Infringement
It could be both the QR / One pump Octopus regarding BEST.

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby tautologies » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:40 am

wow there is a lot stuff going on.

Interesting though.

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby whiskas » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:19 am

Geez. Naish are suing Best, North and Cabrinha?

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby RickyBobby » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:39 pm

And by coincidence, REAL Kitesurfing heavily promotes Naish kites.

Oh, the irony!

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby Uride2 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:58 pm

I will say that the Naish Push out quick release is my favorite. Very smooth to release, the easiest of all systems to reset, especially on the water. I'm torn between "can't we all just get along", and the rights for people to reap the benefits of their inventiveness.

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby Windrider » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:27 pm

If it is, in fact, judged to be a patent infringement, then that's an example of the justice system doing its job. People deserve the revenue from their inventions. Otherwise, it's just piracy straight and simple.

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby sourra » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:42 am

whiskas wrote:Geez. Naish are suing Best, North and Cabrinha?
Geez Neighbour, look at the dates =)

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Re: Naish Suing Best

Postby sourra » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:17 am

I got curious so I checked out patent 6,988,694that they are brawling about. It surprised me how many variants of releases the patent included. A little selection is attached below.
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