Dwight wrote:Not fair to compare those two.
Torch is like Vegas.
R5 is like Naish Raven (replaces X4).
Naish must love Norths 5th E. Raven sounds like R5 knock off.
That not nice off you Dwight....
I sail the North and Naish kites, from R5 too Torch... your right about that the Vegas/torch is the "same" kite, and R5/Raven looks like the the will be to.
But to call the Raven a "knock off" is like saying that North "inventet" it all, and Naish is just a copy cat/Best kite......
I like them both, and i like their gear.... One year one is first, the next year the other..
I sail the R5 on the TT SOL, and it was the best "combo", for me this year... I think the new Jamie Pro is too flexi for unhookt... But great for jumping.