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North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby MestreWorldCup » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:50 pm

Recently... :argue: I break my last surf board...
(wood construction) 6.3, so i'm looking for a Bamboo contruction...

Rider: 92Kg
Level: Advanced
High: 1,83cm
Style: Carving & waves


So, what's your opinion ?
Thanks in advance !!!

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby spleeft » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:13 pm

Find a local custom shaper and get a board built for you, instead of a stamped out , overpriced production board....
decent debate here
http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2375798

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby Al_Kiter » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:12 pm

MWC, forget wood construction or bamboo or any wood veneer for wave boards. Board companies are only using them instead of pvc because:

1 - it's cheaper
2 - it's lighter and aesthetically pleasing
3 - it makes boards less durable so they sell more boards

If you are going to abuse your wave board then look for a full pvc sandwich construction. Custom build is probably a good idea and, if you go that way, ask for a stronger core (2lb fused EPS foam) and a full 3mm pvc sandwich and heel reinforcements.

If you do prefer the looks of a paulonia or bamboo deck then go strapless. :thumb:

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby MestreWorldCup » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks for your quick answers...

Al-Kiter its a pleasure, ear you again
The Guincho King :thumb:

Its a big dilema, sometimes the custom doesn't ride well, and the others
Break so easy...
Thanks for all

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby piccio » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:37 am

with Kontact you will need horsepower good wind and 2 3 m wawes at least ,to have fun,
in guincho will be ok but in barcelona???

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby MestreWorldCup » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:28 am

piccio wrote:with Kontact you will need horsepower good wind and 2 3 m wawes at least ,to have fun,
in guincho will be ok but in barcelona???


I only use wave and race boards, in Barcelona I use kontact 6.3 for all conditions
14 to 40 knots, the waves are not so bigger than 1,5m, but by the other hand I love
do carving with it, and ride so fast...

If never comes 3 m waves, I will ready to ride je je :D :D

And ever... I can visit to my friend in guincho !!!

http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2362237

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Re: North Kontact 6'1 2012 vs FOne 6'2 2012 ?

Postby KitesportsCT » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:36 am

When it comes to construction of waveboards also here the saying is right that the chain is as strong as its weakest link.

All production boards are using EPS which is an open cell foam, light and a great foam te press into a mould to pop out a board. This foam is very soft, to increase the durability the manufacturers are using sandwich constructions to improve durability either PVC, wood or bamboo. Main problem here is that a sandwich construction like wood or bamboo top and bottom creates a lot of stiffness in length direction this affects the performance of the boards negatively as it makes the boards more nervous. Another main difference between production waveboards compared to surfboards is that the open cell EPS has a lot of air in it as it is open cell :D this will give the boards more buoyancy.

Coming back to the weakest link if you have 0.3mm wood veneer sandwich but 2" of soft EPS foam it not if but when it delaminates or breaks, the weakest link here is the EPS.

Here in Cape Town there is a company that Manufactures Custom Waveboards and they combine the best of both worlds. They use a Styrofoam HD closed cell core with a bamboo stringer.The heel sides are reinforced with a Balsa wood in various thicknesses from 3mm up to 20mm. There is hardly any weight increase and the boards have a huge amount of flex. Due to the close cell another advantage is that you can get the boards at least 1 size bigger than you would ususally choose with a production boards with all the added advantages of a bigger board.

We sell them here in Cape Town and they are popular as these are high performance Surfboards but extremely durable. The locals here ride almost on a daily basis in the harsh conditions here the boards do get a beating. Have a look at the stuff they do and the flex in the boards it is crazy.

http://www.xeleratorkiteboarding.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-size-and-shape-waveboard-should-i.html
http://www.xeleratorkiteboarding.blogspot.com/2010/11/xelerator-epic-custom-waveboards.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpSkl7EffI&feature=g-upl

Hope this is some usefull information regarding the construction of modern kitewaveboards.

Have fun out there!! :thumb:


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