Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Forum for kitesurfers
User avatar
ktouhey
Medium Poster
Posts: 138
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:43 am
Local Beach: I fly a lot.
Style: waves
Gear: Naish kites & boards, O'neill wetsuits.
Brand Affiliation: Naish, O'neill - Canada Team Rider
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby ktouhey » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:14 pm

I read something about a new 1.5 : 1 bar for racing.
Anyone have any thoughts/pics/whatever?

tomatkins
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1123
Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:53 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby tomatkins » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:09 am

Last fall there was a thread about this bar. I can't find the link...maybe someone else can.

ronnie
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4184
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:39 pm
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 59 times

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby ronnie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:53 am

The topics started when a photo of Bruno was posted with a new bar with pulleys. The photo was removed.
There is a photo somewhere of Adam Koch pulling an additional line to the powerline, which seems to be his way of dealing with the depower range problem.

You can see why Bruno would want to get away from this stance.


viewtopic.php?f=159&t=2362627&hilit=bruno+sroka&start=0

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2362671&hilit=pulleys&start=0
Attachments
Fot1_BruSroSteBriVen.jpg

User avatar
Cab Driver
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 622
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:12 pm
Kiting since: 2000
Gear: Cabrinha
Brand Affiliation: Cabrinha
Location: Miami
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 70 times
Contact:

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby Cab Driver » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:43 pm

ronnie wrote:The topics started when a photo of Bruno was posted with a new bar with pulleys. The photo was removed.
There is a photo somewhere of Adam Koch pulling an additional line to the powerline, which seems to be his way of dealing with the depower range problem.

You can see why Bruno would want to get away from this stance.


viewtopic.php?f=159&t=2362627&hilit=bruno+sroka&start=0

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2362671&hilit=pulleys&start=0
Ronnie, Bruno is sitting on his heal edge and sheeting out clearly ready to tack. You can see from the water trail that he is already rounding up. That's why his arms are so far out and he looks a little goofy.

As for any new technology, it's a little early for us to be showing anything. Stay tuned...

JoshNoe
Medium Poster
Posts: 81
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:13 pm
Local Beach: Matheson Hammock, Crandon Park, Stilltsville, Miami Beach, Aventura, Dania Beach, Fort Lauderdale (Tiki Beach)
Favorite Beaches: Bimini Bay, Boca Chita, Stilltsville, Stone Harbor New Jersey
Style: Freestyle and Race
Gear: Cabrinha Switchblades, Custom 138 Board with Straps, DC Custom Raceboard, NPX Assassin Shorty, 3/3, and 4/3 Fullsuits, NPX Cult Impact Vest.
Brand Affiliation: Brand Manager for NPX and Pryde Waterwear
Location: Brand Manager for NPX and Pryde Waterwear, Americas
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby JoshNoe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:45 pm

Yea looks like he's about to tack. Pretty impressive, I have to concentrate just to nail my tacks with my eyes open.

FL Kiteboarder
Frequent Poster
Posts: 407
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:23 pm
Local Beach: South Jetty, Ft. Pierce, FL USA
Favorite Beaches: South Jetty, Ft. Pierce, FL USA
Anne's Beach, Islamorada, FL USA
Style: Freeriding
Gear: |
Cabrinha: '09 16m XBOW / GK: '08 12m & 9m Trix / Eclipse: '08 14m Thruster
|
2009 Nobile XTR 143x48, T5 137x42 / 2007 Litewave 179
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Ft. Pierce, FL, USA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby FL Kiteboarder » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:47 pm

Cab Driver wrote:As for any new technology, it's a little early for us to be showing anything. Stay tuned...
This just out - taken from here (page has since been removed)

Cabrinha Crossbow Race Edition 2011 Kitesurfing Kite -
With Cabrinha's dominance in kite course racing secured by Bruno Sroka's 2009 world titles, the foundation was set to develop a dedicated racing kite based on Crossbow's winning design. The New 2011 Cabrinha Crossbow XB Race combines a new profile set into an ultra stable laminate material to deliver a highly tuned racing machine. The Cabrinha Crossbow XB Race is made to do one thing - win. It has incredible upwind and downwind abilities. Our exclusive laminate material and its 7 batten frame keep the canopy flying rock solid on all points of sail. This board will be available from King of Watersports in the very near future.The Cabrinha Crossbow XB Race comes complete with a 1.5 to 1 ratio control bar. This ratio allows greater control over the speed and power of your kite while increasing its turning ability. If you are serious about racing and want to stay ahead of the pack, this is your kite.
What else can you share at this time?

I couldn't help but notice on Damo's POV video that his control bar and lines
were very clean-looking and there was no IDS system/lines to be found.


Marc
Cabrinha - XBOW '09 16m / Naish - Cult '10 13.5m / GK - Trix '08 12m & 9m / Eclipse -Thruster '08 14m - Nano '09 11m
Kiteboarding Videos: Feat. Nobile, Mystic, GK, Litewave, Flyboards, Ozone, Naish, Cabrinha, & More

ronnie
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4184
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:39 pm
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 59 times

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby ronnie » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:53 pm

Cab Driver wrote:
ronnie wrote:The topics started when a photo of Bruno was posted with a new bar with pulleys. The photo was removed.
There is a photo somewhere of Adam Koch pulling an additional line to the powerline, which seems to be his way of dealing with the depower range problem.

You can see why Bruno would want to get away from this stance.


viewtopic.php?f=159&t=2362627&hilit=bruno+sroka&start=0

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2362671&hilit=pulleys&start=0
Ronnie, Bruno is sitting on his heal edge and sheeting out clearly ready to tack. You can see from the water trail that he is already rounding up. That's why his arms are so far out and he looks a little goofy.

As for any new technology, it's a little early for us to be showing anything. Stay tuned...

As you say, but he also sheets out in a straight line as at 0:45 in this video.


User avatar
ktouhey
Medium Poster
Posts: 138
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:43 am
Local Beach: I fly a lot.
Style: waves
Gear: Naish kites & boards, O'neill wetsuits.
Brand Affiliation: Naish, O'neill - Canada Team Rider
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby ktouhey » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:21 pm

Cab Driver wrote:As for any new technology, it's a little early for us to be showing anything. Stay tuned...
Fair enough.
ronnie wrote:There is a photo somewhere of Adam Koch pulling an additional line to the powerline, which seems to be his way of dealing with the depower range problem.
I also see that as the problem which should be solved, with potential turning-speed mods taking a back seat (longer bars do the trick for that... at least somewhat).

FL Kiteboarder
Frequent Poster
Posts: 407
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:23 pm
Local Beach: South Jetty, Ft. Pierce, FL USA
Favorite Beaches: South Jetty, Ft. Pierce, FL USA
Anne's Beach, Islamorada, FL USA
Style: Freeriding
Gear: |
Cabrinha: '09 16m XBOW / GK: '08 12m & 9m Trix / Eclipse: '08 14m Thruster
|
2009 Nobile XTR 143x48, T5 137x42 / 2007 Litewave 179
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Ft. Pierce, FL, USA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby FL Kiteboarder » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:02 pm

-
Also added to kiteforum.tv -

No mention of the '1.5:1 ratio race version' set-up...






Marc
Cabrinha - XBOW '09 16m / GK - Trix '08 12m & 9m / Eclipse -Thruster '08 14m
Kiteboarding Videos: Feat. Nobile, Mystic, GK, Litewave, Flyboards, Ozone, Naish, Cabrinha, & More

ronnie
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 4184
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:39 pm
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 59 times

Re: 1.5 : 1 bar for racing?

Postby ronnie » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:11 pm

There was a 'secret' photo of Bruno with an unusual pulley bar. They may have moved a similar arrangement up to the kite bridle.


Return to “Kitesurfing”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Azzieo, Bing [Bot], Google [Bot], Steve271, vladi elthve, vp and 142 guests