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 Post subject: Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing Worlds
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:33 pm 
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Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing World Championships


The IKA Technical Committee has extensively discussed the issue of kites currently falling under the "grandfathering rule" of class rule B.1.2

Class Rule B.1.2 states, that 'production kites BUILT before 2012 will be included on the relevant Production Equipment List'.

The intention of this class rule was to allow old kites to be continued to be used after the introduction of the Registered Series Production System. The class rule did not intend to allow brand new kites of an old model to be used in competition for several years. Such kites are not in compliance with the class rules and therefore subject to protests.

The IKA Technical Committee has thereafter been looking for reliable methods to determine the production date of a kite. Any such methods are not reliable enough to determine the exact manufacturing date and would also not allow to identify kites that are newly produced using old materials.

The basic principle of the Registered Production Equipment System is to ensure that every sailor has access to any equipment he wishes to sail, and that all such equipment is the same as others on the same production series. This principle cannot be satisfied by kites falling under the grandfathering rule as kites manufactured before 2012 are not publically available anymore.

To ensure a fair competition at the 2013 kiteracing world championships and beyond, the IKA Technical Committee has therefore recommended to delete the grandfathering rule with immediate effect.

The next edition of the class rules, to be voted on during the next AGM, also has the grandfathering rule deleted. This proposal had been made already before the recent European Championships in Gizzeria.

The IKA Executive Committee will enforce the deletion of class rule B.1.2 for the 2013 World Championships. Only registered series production equipment currently listed on the relevant equipment lists is eligible to race. A corresponding note under Racing Rule 87 will be posted on the Official Notice Board and included in the Notice of Race.

However, the IKA Executive Committee strongly encourages producers of equipment currently not been found on the relevant IKA registered production equipment lists to register their equipment in the next registration cycle (deadline: 01.03.2014) and make them publically available to all interested sailors.


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 Post subject: Re: Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing Wor
PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:37 pm 
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Toby wrote:
IKA News:

Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing World Championships


The IKA Technical Committee has extensively discussed the issue of kites currently falling under the "grandfathering rule" of class rule B.1.2

Class Rule B.1.2 states, that 'production kites BUILT before 2012 will be included on the relevant Production Equipment List'.

The intention of this class rule was to allow old kites to be continued to be used after the introduction of the Registered Series Production System. The class rule did not intend to allow brand new kites of an old model to be used in competition for several years. Such kites are not in compliance with the class rules and therefore subject to protests.

The IKA Technical Committee has thereafter been looking for reliable methods to determine the production date of a kite. Any such methods are not reliable enough to determine the exact manufacturing date and would also not allow to identify kites that are newly produced using old materials.

The basic principle of the Registered Production Equipment System is to ensure that every sailor has access to any equipment he wishes to sail, and that all such equipment is the same as others on the same production series. This principle cannot be satisfied by kites falling under the grandfathering rule as kites manufactured before 2012 are not publically available anymore.

To ensure a fair competition at the 2013 kiteracing world championships and beyond, the IKA Technical Committee has therefore recommended to delete the grandfathering rule with immediate effect.

The next edition of the class rules, to be voted on during the next AGM, also has the grandfathering rule deleted. This proposal had been made already before the recent European Championships in Gizzeria.

The IKA Executive Committee will enforce the deletion of class rule B.1.2 for the 2013 World Championships. Only registered series production equipment currently listed on the relevant equipment lists is eligible to race. A corresponding note under Racing Rule 87 will be posted on the Official Notice Board and included in the Notice of Race.

However, the IKA Executive Committee strongly encourages producers of equipment currently not been found on the relevant IKA registered production equipment lists to register their equipment in the next registration cycle (deadline: 01.03.2014) and make them publically available to all interested sailors.


Pretty uncool of the IKA to decide this in the Middle of the season after writing this to the Manufacturers:

" All 2011 (and before) kites as well as all 2010 (and before) production boards are automatically entered on the production registration list so you do not have to worry about that."

This will pretty much kick out two of the best Women Racers in the World from the World Championships. These two have done nothing wrong competing on Kite Models that date back to 2009.

I have been a very strong supporter of the IKA until now, but this takes the cake. How can the IKA be taken seriously by doing something like this??

I see now that we are 100% a Sailing Sport now, and as such are at the mercy of the politics.

I would be Ok with the whole thing if they would accept some responsibility and would allow the 2 Brands they are screwing over here to register their kites now instead of in 2014.

You cannot tell someone they do not need to register and then turn around half way though the season on kick them out.

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 Post subject: Re: Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing Wor
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:53 am 
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Thanks for that insight Gunnar.

If its a 2010 (say) kite and they build it exactly the same in every way and can prove that, then I think it should be allowed to be used.

If they are changing anything in regard to the design of the kite or there is no way of the manufacturer proving that is not the case, then I think the kite should have to be re-registered.

The IKA don't seem to have written the rules tightly enough and in the early days when they want to encourage racing, I can understand them not wanting to exclude all old designs through not being registered.

If the kites were being built exactly as the 2010 kite, then I would side with the manufacturer and say the IKA should allow them to ASAP register a new design and use it.
If a manufacturer couldn't prove the kites were all exactly as the 2010 kite, (I think they should be able to do that) then I'm happy with the current IKA decision.


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 Post subject: Re: Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing Wor
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:26 am 
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It's a total crock of shit.

I have lost all respect for the IKA.

Markus seems inept at organisation and his ability to communicate at a professional level is severely lacking.

Oh look, both Foil companies are kicked out....

what the fuck?


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 Post subject: Re: Eligibility of pre-2012 kites at the 2013 Kiteracing Wor
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:43 pm 
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ah the good old "change the rules while the game's afoot" changaroo...pretty bad karma and not entirely unexpected looking at how kiteracing has changed the past few years.

I understand kiteracing is a new sport, but whole idea and purpose of having an organization is to create stability..this does of course the opposite and leaves riders worse off than they used to be.

Rules should be changed between seasons.


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