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Who likes crowds?

Postby wave*** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:04 pm

Maybe it's my surfing background, but I'm having a minor issue with some action on a local kite forum. There are regular posts about who scored good conditions at which spot and where to go today - "Hey, I kited XXXX spot today. Lit on my 10M. Let's all go there again today!"

The result is a crowded beach, and a lot of kites on the water. This is especially frustrating at a couple of spots with small beaches or tight riding areas.

I know from 30+ years of surfing that you NEVER tell anyone about catching killer conditions. Not your brother, not your best buddy, not even your Mom. If you get it good, keep it to yourself so you have a shot at scoring again. In surfing, waves are a limited resource, and crowds suck.

I tend to feel the same way with kiting. Beach real estate for rigging and launching can be limited, some places have narrow riding areas, and waves are still a limited resource. In most cases, crowds suck.

Am I missing something, or am I just stuck in my grumpy old surfer ways?

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby BWD » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:39 pm

Not your brother

huh?
Do you have a brother?
Sometimes 2 slide into a lineup a lot easier than one.
Take your brother to the waves
if he gets cut off, set a pick if you have to,
so he can catch some prime waves
He returns your favor,
but you both give everybody room,
and you don't have to worry about it 'cause you know he's got your back!
In a crowd you get less waves than if nobody was there,
but you still get a few and nobody is beat up.
Unless you are weak at a beach full of gorillas :lol: then you better keep paddling ;)

Seriously, you do sound a little grumpy.
I usually think locals or "regulars" tend to know the breaks
if they are not there it's because they are doing something else,
not that they forgot to check a web forum.

I still might not put it up on the internet, but with kiting,
it is good to have some kiters around who know the risks and skills, might help each other out.

Of course, if it's tons of kiters that are jackasses, and totally crowded everywhere,
you're out of luck.

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby frankm1960 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:24 pm

Half dozen kiters around is good. Anymore well then you need lot's of launching space which of course we don't have here, hence few kiters which is both good and bad :)

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby Windrider » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:45 pm

I like squads rather than platoons. Flying solo feels a little exposed once you're down on the water with broken lines and a half-mile out.

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby toyletbowl » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:43 pm

this is an easy one for this sport.

riding solo sucks and is not really smart.

riding in big crowds can also suck and can be dangerous, but it can work if riders know what they are doing.

riding with friends or small groups is where it's at.

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby ian c » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:53 pm

That would really piss me off.

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby POACHER » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:20 pm

Crowds suck.

-concerts
-sporting events
-riots
-lift lines
-kite spots

ALL no good.

I see no plus in a crowd. A few bros at a spot is fine, having to navigate through a bunch of downed kites and beginners (no offense noobs, I was one too) is a pain in the anus. (and dangerous)

I made a map of the lake we kite with all the launch spots marked depending on the wind direction. I printed it out, gave a copy to my riding buddies and said I posted it online for all to see.
I had to let them off the hook before they brained me.

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby maddy » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:56 pm

:girl: pussy crowds .. I do love that

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby BBQFish » Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:00 pm

I like to share...dunno, i think it has to do with being SOCIAL??

If a spot is demanding, the noobs will not kite there..so you have no worries.
When there's lots of experienced riders kiting there, they'll know the code of conduct.
Finally, it's much more fun talking the session through over a beer with your buddies then going home alone..

But each to their own...

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Re: Who likes crowds?

Postby Krazedkiter » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:50 am

Thats the problem with this world. Selfishness isntead of selflessness. Shhhh dont tell anyone. I see everyday major schools/retailers that all they want to do is get you on your 3 hour lesson wether it's 5 knots or 20 knots. Who cares, just pump em thru. Get there money and on their way, Chances are they wont come back so who cares..right?

Same with experienced kiters to newbies. Dont tell them anything becuase they might actually learn something and come back.

There are also alot of good schools and good kiters (and I dont mean how well they kite) out there. If you share and help others, the favor is returned to you in many other ways. I have selected my spots not so much on the location but more so on teh type of kiters that go there.

Read this forum, all the selfishness that goes on. People ask for help and they get shit.

It's about time we all stood up and we start lending a helping hand. Example. " Hey Im coming down to "insert city" for the weekend and Im looking for a place to kite". What is the response? Not check this out or try here but more like...." Hey stop by "insert name" kiteshop and we can give you some pointers. Best thing to do is take our boat out to the flats. Its only $100"

Shame on us.


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