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No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby chipmunk » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:25 pm

quote:
WSSR Newsletter No 165. Kite-boarder record 20/11/08
The WSSR Council announces the ratification of a new World Record

There has been a considerable delay in the ratification of this claim due to the non availability of the necessary data. This has also affected a further claim for an increased speed on a later date. The Council anticipates that we will be able to make an announcement on this claim within a few days.

Note that at the November Conference 2008, ISAF clarified that a kite-powered craft cannot be recognised as the holder of The World Sailing Speed Record
http://www.gps-kitesurfing.com/default. ... 1&val=9193
http://www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default ... &val=10380


The record was set in October 2008 before the ISFA meeting ?
So a spinnaker are banned ???? As well

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby Starsky » Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:08 pm

Whatever... Let em play their own game then.

Everyone knows what the real deal is.

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby PeterP » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:54 pm

Well, the WSSRC have played their true hand.

It ain't pretty, first they introduce the 50cm rule earlier this year, and when the kiters blasted 50knots in sufficient water they just ban kites altogether.

I guess that the easy way.....at least that's the way we are used to seeing things sorted out in our end of the world - but to see the previously highly esteemed Council make such a blatantly biased, paid for decision, is nothing short of shockingly unbelievable.

Good luck Hydroptere, go get your record, I truly hope you beat 50.7 otherwise you deserve nothing.

And when the kiters put you to shame next year again, then who you going to pay off?

Jacobs Ladder was allowed to use kites back in the 70's as they were deemed to be a sailing craft powered by the wind and controlled by a crew member on board - what exactly has changed?

Oh silly question, those kite-crafts beat the record - thats what changed........

and PS - wasn't Ericsson 4 using a kite during their 24 hr record?

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby PeterP » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Seems like I was spewing venom at the wrong bunch of crusties - it's the ISAF guys that got us banned - WSSRC are merely following their directive....

So as indicated in another thread, ISAF has acknowledged Kiting as part of ISAF so we now can have an "official" world championship - but on the other hand we can't be the fastest windpowered craft on the water. I guess that's fair enough, we wouldn't want to be too greedy

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby PeterP » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:38 pm

Here they are:
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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby JoshNoe » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:46 pm

Wow very lame.

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby ian c » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:23 pm

Yeah they look like the like of people that are going to let a bunch off young riders with equipment 100th of the price show up their rich friends! not

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby IKA » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:33 pm

Unfortunately that policy was confirmed (it already existed since years !) BEFORE the IKA has been approved as ISAF international class, so if you check the timeline then everything looks ok - which of course it is not !

We are already working on solving the problem. Both Speed:World:Cup and IKA will approve and support the outright record being held by a kiteboarder.

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby Toby » Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:36 pm

it is about money...sailors have more money than kiters. Fact.

But IKA, pls try to make sure they feel bad once they talk about the record for wind driven people on water...

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Re: No Record If you cannot win Move the goal posts

Postby waveknave » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:45 pm

who cares if the ISAF call it the record?
it is what it is.. that they recognize it or not doesnt change it.
it is the record.


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