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Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby kitesurfbali » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:09 am

Hello friends,
I recently replied to a post asking about kites available in Indonesia that can be found on Alibaba....
Today I received this e-mail from a guy in Canada:

Hello,
Have you ever heard of a company called CV. Puncak Surfing in Denpasar?
I ordered some kites from them and think they ran off with my money.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank-you for a reply.
Canada


This is a total scam!!!
We receive a request to investigate from few Kitesurfing brand and try to contact these guys!
They actually do not exist as a company, they do not answer to the phone number listed and we could not find the address they claiming.

PLEASE NOTE THAT.....
Kitesurfing equipment is not manufactured in Indonesia.....
There are few legitimate guys trading kitesurfing equipment in Bali and Indonesia:
www.balikitesurf.com - Bernard - Importer for F-One
www.bali-kitesurfing.org - Kite & Surf Bali the Pro Shop - Jankie - Importer for Ozone, Airush, Jimmy Lewis, Peter Lynn.
www.blueoasisbeachclub.com - Blue Oasis in Sanur - Mario - a school and also sell equipment.
www.Kiteboardingbali.com - they import Best Kites

Our store is the only real kitesurfing shop in Indonesia at the moment!!!!
Bye Jankie
PS. If I'm forgetting anyone please let me know and I will add to the list.

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby Dionisis » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:23 pm

Do you know how this guy sent the money ?

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby kitesurfbali » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:46 am

Don't know sorry.....

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby bernardbali » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:13 pm

I am Bernard the distributor F-one kite in Indonesia.
If I can help this Canadian guy who order some kites.
But it should realy check before send any money with Bali kite school or a kitesurf Shop Bali.

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby RAL INN » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:43 am

I initiated an inquiry from Alibaba and received a reply that the fraudlent company has been removed from their data base.
below is a copy of some of the email so that any further incidents can use the links to let them know.
Alibaba certainly were very quick to address the concerns voiced on this forum.
.......quote......
If you suspect any other fraudulent activity on Alibaba.com, please notify us immediately.

For more safe online trading tips, please visit:
http://resources.alibaba.com/trade_safe/home.htm.

If you have any further questions, please visit our Help Center at http://www.alibaba.com/trade/help/helpcenter or contact us at anytime.

Sincerely,
Alibaba.com Service Team
Email: alibaba@alibaba-inc.com

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby kitesurfbali » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:54 am

Hello Ral Inn,
actually from the last time I checked about one week ago.
The number of fraud company there increased!!!
And I'm afraid that they will find the way to cheat people in others way.
So just be careful, you can ask either me or Bernard for info if equipment is coming
out of Indonesia! We know all the player and kiters here.
Hope this can help.
Bye Jankie

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby wouterb » Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:28 pm

On a dutch forum (kitehigh.nl) an Indonesian online store is mentioned and questioned whether or not it’s legit.
It about ‘www.endraprasta.com’, they sell for example 2009 Switchblade IDS 10mW Bar/Lines for:
$739.00
Now that is (around holland) cheap. Please, can you say anything about this??
Your help will be appreciated.
Thanx in advance

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby kitesurfbali » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:14 pm

Yes absolutely!
Bye Jankie

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby RAL INN » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:40 pm

kitesurfbali wrote:Hello Ral Inn,
actually from the last time I checked about one week ago.
The number of fraud company there increased!!!
And I'm afraid that they will find the way to cheat people in others way.
So just be careful, you can ask either me or Bernard for info if equipment is coming
out of Indonesia! We know all the player and kiters here.
Hope this can help.
Bye Jankie


as you see them, please use those links to inform Alibaba.
they will try different names but it seems Alibaba will soon work out a way to stop them.

remember if a price looks to good to be true, then it usually is.

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Re: Be Aware of Scam: Ordering Kites in Indonesia!!!!

Postby bernardbali » Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:18 am

Bernard from Balikitesurf F-one
I have been checked to call the phone number in two web site Alibaba and the others one from www.Endraprasta.com no body get the phone it look like the number are not active.
The solution is make sure to know where you order anything online.About the payment on line the are some like paypal who will guaranty a save transaction.

Bernard


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