Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

Kite lopping/flapping in air.

forum for kitesurfers


deXtrous
Rare Poster
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:53 am
Kiting since: 2009
Local Beach: Dolls Point, Sydney
Favorite Beaches: Avalon, Sydney
Botany Bay, Sydney
Style: Freeride
Gear: 2009 Nobile N62 11m
2008 Nobile 555 131cm
Brand Affiliation: None

Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby deXtrous » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:32 am

Hey all. So I'm a beginner to kiting but I have all my gear and have been getting out there as much as I can.

i have a nobile n62 delta shaped kite which is meant to have a pretty good low-end wind range.

So these days I've been going out in 10-20 knot winds and I notice my kite is flapping about in the air more than anyone elses (well theirs dont do it at all).

I was just wondering what is the cause of this? Am I doing something wrong? It flys okay but it does seem a bit underpowered. I've tried trimming it all the way in and also all the way out with the trim-strap but it doesn't make much difference.

Cheers folk!

User avatar
grantman54
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 996
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:54 am
Kiting since: 2007
Location: Central CA

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby grantman54 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:15 am

you probably are not pumping it enough. I did that a lot as a beginner. Still do it once in a while. Also the more you depower it the more the canopy will deform/flap.

eitan-xenonboards
Rare Poster
Posts: 12
Joined: Sat May 09, 2009 11:31 am
Kiting since: 2000
Local Beach: israel- tel aviv
Favorite Beaches: israel- sea of gallile, hifa, bat galim, eilat. brasil- paracuru. greece- parasonissi
Style: all
Gear: boards- xenon. kites- naish
Brand Affiliation: None

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby eitan-xenonboards » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:27 am

after you pump it right- & make sure that thats not the reason,
advice people on the beach while it happens
or ask the dealer/the guy who sold it to you about it.
good luck

User avatar
mathieu leheilleix
Frequent Poster
Posts: 367
Joined: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:28 am
Kiting since: 2006
Local Beach: Dolphin Beach, Cape Town
Favorite Beaches: Ras Sudr, Egypt
Style: Free style
Gear: Cab
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Cape Town

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby mathieu leheilleix » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:43 am

Maybe you are flying your kite very de-powered - the kite would then flap more.

good luck

User avatar
RickI
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 8683
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2002 1:00 am
Kiting since: 1998
Local Beach: SE Florida
Gear: Cabrinha
Brand Affiliation: Cabrinha
Location: Florida

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby RickI » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:51 pm

Check your lines to make sure they are of equal length. I assume this is also required on this kite brand, have yet to fly one. Then I would rig your back lines to the mid range knot of the trailing edge kite bridles. Hopefully the kite manual describes this. Take it out in reasonable winds for that size and see how it flies. It sounds like you might be flying it too depowered. This can happen with the bar pushed too far out or with the back lines attached to far away from the kite on the bridles. The looping part is bad, you want to avoid that through proper tuning or whatever other means as it has taken out some kiters in the past.

User avatar
marlboroughman
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 2200
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:12 pm
Kiting since: 2005
Style: Oldschool
Gear: Switch
Brand Affiliation: cubakitelessons.com
Location: CubaKiteLessons.com
Contact:

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby marlboroughman » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:03 pm

Your bridle is not balanced properly. With five line kites there is no problem at all you just shorten the front lines and extend the fifth. With your kite my first step would be to shorten the back lines and reduce the bar throw. If that doesn't help I would try to bring the kite in with the bridle by tying the knots first to try, and making permanent changes once the balance is found.

srrc
Medium Poster
Posts: 152
Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:15 pm
Kiting since: 0
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: UK

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby srrc » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:14 pm

The lines that leave from the ends of the bar need to be on the middle knots at the bar end.
Then at the kite end of the same lines they should be on the knots nearest the kite.
That is the most common setting, provided you have pumped it pretty hard then it should fly really well. It's a very good kite, quite forgiving. If it continues to misbehave have someone who really knows look it over, there must be something else wrong in the basic setup.

gbleck
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 546
Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:39 am

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby gbleck » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:14 pm

The nobile manual shows a 4 line kite with a single knot on the front birdals and two knots on the back lines. If by looping you are saying when helled level bar at 12o'c zenith and you pull in evenly it pulls to one side then one line is likely stretched more then the others. Attach all the ends to a nail or something and pull on the bar 90 deg. All should dip the same amount and at the same rate when you sheet in and out. The Kiteboarder has a good tuning guide with pics.

deXtrous
Rare Poster
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:53 am
Kiting since: 2009
Local Beach: Dolls Point, Sydney
Favorite Beaches: Avalon, Sydney
Botany Bay, Sydney
Style: Freeride
Gear: 2009 Nobile N62 11m
2008 Nobile 555 131cm
Brand Affiliation: None

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby deXtrous » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:08 am

Sorry folks. Lopping was the complete wrong term here. I really don't know why I used it. The kite's canopy is only flapping in the air. no LOOPing or LOPPing.

I really appreciate the replies. I'm going to read around and tune my kite like you guys said. Hopefully I will fix it! :)

Thanks!

User avatar
grantman54
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 996
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:54 am
Kiting since: 2007
Location: Central CA

Re: Kite lopping/flapping in air.

Postby grantman54 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:22 am

make sure u try pumping it up more before messing around with tuning.


Return to “Kitesurfing”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Jwoo, Kamikuza, pikovsg, sabraxas and 13 guests