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 Post subject: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:50 am 
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Had a couple of weeks on the new 18m Airstyle Rebel. While I only rode it from 13 to 16/18 unfortunately, I'm starting to get a good feel for it and it's capabilities.

What follows is a fair few pictures (sorry about that... :o ). First post will just have some shots of the wing, second some shots with the kids (using the kite with dad of course) and third some jumping photos to give you some idea of it's jumping/hangtime ability (Sorry no video was available). I have reduced them in number and size as much as possible.

If anything, these photos are not just about the kite, but also a quick look at our beautiful and remote north west.

Hope you enjoy...


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:05 am 
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Now for the kids...


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:08 am 
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Can you compare it to the other kites you used?


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:23 am 
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Now for some fun...Any questions on the actual kite fire away. Still want to try it closer to 20 knots at my local and also on 32m lines in the lighter stuff. Still working on finding the optimum load point, I'm not loading the lines as well as I'd like, which is as close to 100% as I can..little inconsistent...(On my part not the kite).


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:48 am 
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Toby wrote:
Can you compare it to the other kites you used?


Well I ran the 16 and 18m dyno. You can see my bro on a 16m dyno in one of the pics.

I still think it has a better bottom end...well more useable than the 16 and I think you can take it higher. On that day I had more power, more height and more hangtime than my bro. But it doesn't come close to the 18m dyno. But for a light guy (73-75kg) it, as you said Toby is perfect. Slightly more useable low end with far more hangtime and mch slower. I only over redirected this rebel once while I was there..but I was holding back, remote waters, I was the only one there, family in tow...so all the moves I did were pretty rudimentary. As I said can't wait to get it in my local waters with the crew and increase the risk profile.

The 18 dyno for me in the winds you really want to start pushing the boundaries, was at times too much for me. I mean i could control it, but I was always on that crazy edge or a sublime jump or complete disaster. The rebel sits in a more comfortable usable zone. I did have it out one day when others were on 9m's and only my mate whose an excellent rider was on a 12m dice...it was close to 20 and a bit above...but the water wasn't flat enough, I was struggling to hold an edge. I'm sure in the right conditions it would have been perfect. Even the guys come in, too choppy, tide was all wrong.

it doesn't develop that intense crazy apparent wind pull the dyno 18 gives you, but still enough. Infact I find i can bleed some off, which tends at my weight to give me potentially more height in the jump. The hangtime is nearly or as good I reckon what do you think?

It's funny becuase I ride 12/9 rebel as well and I swear this kite looks flatter from below than the smaller kite, looking from the center out to the tips...doesn't curve in as much. Slightly higher aspect maybe.

Stability wise it's not the super rigid 7 strut dyno, but it's still damn stable and very forgiving if you fly under it...probably more so than the dyno (although the dyno was always surpsingly forgiving). You can feel it moving a little more at the bar end...but this is all comparative wise.

Super direct feel though, more so than the dyno, which is hard to imagine, but you can never get passed long bridles and pulleys, you just can't.

That being said the flip side to this (and I need the other guys to get on it to test this as well) I found the bar pressure on the hard setting almost too much for me. Unless I use the microloop more it will have to stay on the soft setting for me,,which is not really soft...it's just right, although I might tie another knot between the hard and soft as I feel that could give the optimum feel and jumping ability. Still lots to test.

As I said the dyno's apprent wind truck like intense power build up, meant you could really lean into the power to find that single highest load point. I was finding this harder to obtain on the rebel...I think I need to load and release a little earlier..I tended to overfly the kite past 12 too much. it's like the highest power spike comes on between 11and 11.30

but that's a technique thing, not the kite. I still think it's a good option for those 87-85kg and below. Don't get put off by my lighter weight I can hold as much power/kite if not more than guys who are that weight. It's the bigger guys, 90 plus and those that are serious about holding immense power on a big kite that may be left wanting. Even 90 kilo guys are are just getting into this style or are not inclind to really push the limits would be fine. We have to becareful using toby as a yardstick I mean this mofo had this kite out in 34 knots for christ sake! He's an animal when it comes to holding down power.

Overall pretty stoked, but i have a lot of work to do... :D

Ps Oh I nearly forgot here is some pics on the bridal config...essentially 8 points of connection to this leading edge, not unlike the vegas setup apparently...


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:46 am 
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FYI just tried it in 10 to 12 gusting to 14 maybe, on a crappy easterly on 32m lines but on a 135 by 41 Laluz. Bro was on the 16m dyno but on a 145 by 46 light wind TT.

Yeh not bad, enough hangtime and height to practise some stuff actually although one couldn't be to adventurous. Was hard to load in the chop though...if dead flat would have been better.

Still working on that load point.... :(

Ps had a crack on my bros dyno today (haven't been on it in a while), yeh bar pressure on the 16 at least lighter and definetly not as direct as the rebel. Builds apparent wind better for sure.

Me thinks a kite that combines the new rebel and the old dyno in terms of aspect would be spot on... :D for the bigger guys...here's to 2016!!


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:57 am 
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Great write up, thx for the info.

Not having a center strut increases the hangtime, so it is a good hang for sure.
Interesting about the bar pressure, for me it feels smoother.

Keep it coming, interested to hear if you are in 20+ knots.


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:15 pm 
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Nice place you've got down there. :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:17 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Pictorial Airstyle Rebel Review and Our North West
PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:14 pm 
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Smoother..yeh far more direct I'd call it, I will put it back on the hard setting and have the boys ride them back to back and see what they say. Yep a good solid 20 knots is what is needed... :D ..it's coming ....

Cheers plummet and Marlborough man, if you are into waves then it's even better than the pictures I showed you... :D, the surfboard fellas are in heaven.


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