Interesting Judging Discussions

[Sinthoras1]

Honestly I didn't get what this risk factor actually mean. Risk to hurt yourself or risk to crash and loose time?

If it's first one you should just go out with a 2line kite, without depower, safety system or crash vest for a max chance to die and make huge straight airs as close to the beach as possible.

If it's the second board offs, especially flips, dead man variations and handle passes have to be the most risky moves as they get crashed very often and can force you to waste time to relaunch your kite or body drag in order to get the board.

[Toby]

now that is the question I don't know too.

And it is like this: the judges judge they way they judge. Not always logical and after the same guidelines. Some judges see me on 1, some on 4.

So I go out for the spectators and not the judges.

[sijandy]

Honestly I didn't get what this risk factor actually mean. Risk to hurt yourself or risk to crash and loose time?

Risk to hurt yourself.

[Tiago1973]

it´s pretty clear that the risk factor links with the perceptation that poor execution will end in physical pain

I don´t do megaloops or 1080board-offs

but if it is blowing 30 knots and God tell me I´ll need to try 1 of those 2 or I go to Hell then it´s pretty clear I will choose a 1080board-off in any given day

what is so hard to get?



PS
glad God does not speak to me

[Sinthoras1]

what is so hard to get?

Ask that the judges that all judge differently or the riders that are still performing board offs even if they don't significantly alter the chance of injury.

Just to get things straight: Let's say we have 2 riders, jumping exactly to the same height. Rider 1 takes his board between the legs and makes a handle pass megaloop. Definitely a high risk factor, especially since no one even tried it before. Now comes rider 2 and makes a normal megaloop but so near to the beach, that a gust would shoot him on itl. Rider 2 should be the winner and it's not even close as he was seriously risking his life.

I'm not aware of any sport that favors risk taking over skill in such an extreme way. Pretty sick format. Since people love to see blood it could work though.

[flying_dutchman]

Yo Sinthoras

If the sport is really going this way then sooner or later probably sooner people will start too die, then it will result in the sport becoming prohibited.

It would be such a shame

[Tiago1973]

I was just refer to what is the basic understanding of 'risk factor' when used in the context of a extreme sport

I did not express what I favor more, or less. Not sure from where did u get that idea

in any case beetween all ways the only event that I feel that can soon push risk beyond a sensible point is KOTA. What Hadlow did the last time open the doors for what we can expect, but if pushed too much people will start to die, yes

[we]

Does anyone really think a 1080 board off is harder than a "megaloop", assuming it was a megaloop?

[Sinthoras1]

I didn't say that YOU would prefer one over the other. Sorry if it sounded that way. English is not my mother tongue, so I just wanted to make sure I got it right.

Not sure what is actually more dangerous. KOTA gives only 70% for height/risk, meaning that a more skilled rider can win without taking insane risks. However since more money is involved rider will push it harder. On the other hand a format based solely on height and risk could motivate youngsters to risk their lifes as it would give them a seriuos chance to win against way more skilled rider.

[johnm]

personally I think we should stop using kites - they're way too dangerous - instead let's all just stand on the beach and practice pointing our toes and wedging our feet in our high-tech carry-handles - we could call it 'Beachstyle'