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 Post subject: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:38 am 
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Thought it should have its own post, eventhough coming up as a subpost in Building a hydrofoil .


Keel
Fuselage
Rudder
Front wing
Tail wing


Is my suggestion.


Mast or Keel is what I've heard most, also manufacturers, use.
Mast is a bit confusing, i admit...

Keel is technically okay, as it will act as a keel fully or a small part of it, always, depending on height in the water.

In dinghys, retractable keels does NOT go lengthwise, but can be deeper than the chord, underwater.
Also on some yachts, sometimes called a "Fin Keel" to emphasize it is not a lengthwise type.


I dont like the name "riser", and "strut" is also impossible to translate to most other langauges.

Some not into kitesurfing, always look at you like you are from another planet, when you say "struts" about the kites struts.
"Battens" (or even sail battens) is what they understand immediately (also in other languages)


"Tower" could be an appropriate alternative, and can easily be translated to other languages :thumb:

Just some ideas :rollgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:41 am 
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Keel is probably the most descriptive term even though it does not provide any righting moment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keel


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:18 pm 
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What do the Moth sailors call it? They've been doing this for a lot longer than we have.


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:30 pm 
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Some valid points about translations. Also, if you showed any sailor a hydrofoil, they could figure out 99% of the time which part is the keel if you use the word keel, but if it is called strut, then it would not be so obvious.


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:27 pm 
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why not ask the manufacturers what they call the pieces?


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:10 pm 
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Mast
T-bar
Wing
Stabilizer

that's how i learned. could be wrong. lets get it right before we get to far of


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:49 pm 
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Is T-bar the part between the wings (aka fuselage)? I think T-bat would be the combination of keel+fuselage, but sometimes one would only want to talk about the fuselage on its own?

I think lots of people would prefer the word keel over mast.

Stabilizer is a nice word for the rear wing.


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
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all the parts have names already, why is this forum trying to name them?


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
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sorry Billie just trying to get clarification on what those are. will you please share it with us.


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 Post subject: Re: Hydrofoil parts, names ?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:28 pm 
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In my world it is only named t-bar if the mast/keel and fuselage is in one molded piece.

It seams that it is only the mast/keel that has more names. In my local area we call it the stick. It started as a selfironic joke, as the windsurfers call kitesurfers baloon faggots. Then riding the stick seamed funny, and we kind of still stick with it ;) But since we call the windsurfers pole dancers, another funny name could be the pole. Then we'll al be pole dancers again (as many of us started as windsurfers).

In Moth sailing they seam to use the name vertical foil for the mast/keel...

Strut might be the correct word:
By definition any member of a structure which is in Compression may be called a Strut. However, the term is usually reserved for long slender members which are likely to fail through buckling, rather than from compressive stress.
As a structural member resisting longitudinal compression, a strut is commonly used in architecture and engineering. In relation to engineering applications, such as for automobiles and aeronautical structures, a strut can be used as a passive brace to reinforce the body, or as an active stress bearing component. As an example, lift struts (still used today on small light aeroplanes) are commonly employed to carry both tension and compression as the aircraft maneuvers in flight.


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