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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby ronnie » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:44 am

cglazier wrote:It is good to see people trying things... Have fun with your twin tip experiments.

Some people find surfboards fun, while the majority of kite surfers are annoyed by having to jibe them and don't have the time, skill, or patience to learn how to jibe, so they use a twin tip.


I have been riding a directional hydrofoil for several years and you do NOT need to gybe them. It is not difficult to simply turn and then ride toe side (while staying up on the foil). By simply riding heel side and then toe side you can go back and forth while staying up on the foil indefinitely.

I suggest that you will enjoy doing transitions this way on your "twin tip" hydrofoil so your foil will always go in one direction and this will allow you to use a more efficient directional hydrofoil design.

Of course the gybe and tack are good to learn eventually.

:wink: CG


The toeside foil riding might benefit from rotating footstraps?

The future of bidirectional foils isn't going to be in high performance relative to other foils, but the twintip foil might be very popular if it could be made very cheaply and was easier to learn with - so a good learning tool that might also be a good light wind twintip.

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby TopLine » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:54 am

I heard a bit about these rotating footstaps. Any chance some one can post pictures or details of a working unit.

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby Hawaiis » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:23 am

TopLine wrote:I heard a bit about these rotating footstaps. Any chance some one can post pictures or details of a working unit.

viewtopic.php?t=2375090

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby ronnie » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:24 am

TopLine wrote:I heard a bit about these rotating footstaps. Any chance some one can post pictures or details of a working unit.


Here are the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/sportsgearsolutions/videos

Contact Henning directly by email at Sportsgearsolutions. He is a one man business so check with him on availability.

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby don pitcher » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:12 pm

I found this interesting. The history of directional hydrofoils.

http://www.hydrofoil.org/history.html

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby Peter_Frank » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:29 pm

I am almost "stunned" now, to hear that most find jibing a "nuisance" ???

IMO it is what carving and surfing is all about, and simply love to tack and especially jibe any kind of board.

Maybe that is what makes our understanding and liking of things so far apart ?

The need for making things "easier" is understandable, true.

But to make things so inferior, that it can be ridden both ways ?

That is beyond my mindset, sorry to say :roll:

Especially as many (most) of us love to jibe a board - one of the best feelings in kitesurfing and windsurfing, and the reason many like the sports :thumb:

8) PF

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby SupaEZ » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:29 pm

Jibing is absolute fun with the power of a kite.....and supra easy

Carve jibe...step jibe...etc..

Always loved jibing since i was 8 years old

First on sailboats then on windsurf boards

Not a nuisance at all.....well said PF :thumb:

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby Hawaiis » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:58 pm

A twintip bidirectional hydrofoil is a learning tool for beginners to learn hydrofoil.
Just as a twintip kite board is a natural choice for beginners.

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby SupaEZ » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:49 am

Hawaiis wrote:A twintip bidirectional hydrofoil is a learning tool for beginners to learn hydrofoil.
Just as a twintip kite board is a natural choice for beginners.


A surfboard can be also a natural choice for many beginners

If a beginner is a surfer or windsurfer he will learn naturally and quickly with surfboard

To me kite schools should spend equal time during lessons to have students experience both

When you learn to windsurf you learn to jibe and that is a real fun part of the sport

What makes learning kitesurf on surfboard easier is that unlike windsurfing you can go toeside

Who says jibing is necessary at every turn by the way

One can go heelside to toeside and stay upwind a long time and have fun...never moving the feet

When the back leg gets tired and burnt out just switch stance and move the back leg to the front

Pretty simple to learn if you ask me

Very rewarding too

What make an hydrofoil so elegant to watch is that it is mounted on a directional surfboard

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Re: Progression of the Bi-Directional Hydrofoil

Postby Hawaiis » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:20 am

For a beginner to start on a directional surfboard is like a teenager trying to learn on a stick shift car. It is possible, but just harder.


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