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Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:59 am
by diogovilla
Why can't we find the gear PRICES on hydrofoil companies websites?

:wallbash:

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:07 am
by svetliy
Too expensive to advertise:)

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:03 am
by diogovilla
svetliy wrote:Too expensive to advertise:)
I believe this is the exact message they are sending. It's like they feel guilty...

I don't like this as a potential customer. :nono:

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:26 am
by longwhitecloud
$1600 ?

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:51 pm
by Europ2
As in any manufactured product, there are different cases:
1- the small brands mostly shapers (MHL, Spotz, Newind, Magma...) you can talk to directly to order (some speak english, some don't),
2- the manufacturers without network that sell directly to the customer with an online shop (3Gcomposite.com selling the Ketos)
3- the brands that have a retail network or local importers (Zeeko, Taaroa, Carafino ..., and soon Takoon, Fone, ...)

For a foil without board, known prices range from 1000eu / 1370USD (Case 1 - Newind) to 1700eu - 2300USD (case 3) + shipping and possibly import taxes for case 1 and 2.
If it's exported from Europe, you can claim the VAT off that is a 20% discount.

Because we are in a worldwide market with different currencies, price policies decided locally by importers or shops + shiping ... :roll: it is not easy/advised to display a fixed price on a brand website.

The only price that is all-inclusive is a shop based in your country - local or on-line.

So, you'd better call or send them a mail .... to get the best price :)

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:16 pm
by Peter_Frank
Prices are really high :(

But so is "delivery time", because of the extreme demands now.

Which normally regulates the price to the "upper level", but not only because of that - also because of the small volume.

On the other hand, one could also compare with a wave or freestyle windsurf board, as they (board ALONE) are priced at exactly the same, if you want a good one :naughty:


So the price itself is understandable.

BUT, there are two tricky parts in this game:

1. Compared to a windsurf board/rig or other similar items, we are very much at risk because we can hit a rock or similar, at the bottom - thus the "small fortune" can get lost or damaged to "uselessness" (I know it is not a correct word, but somehow it makes sense to just say/write it...) before you can blink with your eye...

2. Almost noone has the option to try a foil, before he/she buys one.
Because there are few, and those who got one are thinking about above #1 often, so of course not willing to lend out to everyone.
AND, even if you could try one, it would be a waste of time - because it is so difficult and takes time to master - so you will not get ANY useful "trial" experiences whatsoever.


These are the reasons why only a few buys a foil IMO, to these prices.

If #1 and 2 did not exist, the price itself would not be a major problem, as we use way more money on other things anyways....

But because of above, the price makes most "hesitate" and NOT buy one.

There is an opposing "drift" though - as everybody who sees us foiling, says "I want one" :thumb:

NOT knowing that it is not as steep a learning curve as kitesurfing (which is one of the easiest sports IMO, where you can go from zero to hero in absolutely no time)

So this balances the resist to buy out, and more and more will get a foilboard from now on I think.

Luckily they dont know how hard it is to master :lol: And will get a bit of a surprise for starters :x

On the other hand - WHEN you master it, it is AWESOME, and endless options to learn new things, as one can clearly see by watching any video with Marc Blanc :rollgrin:

8) PF

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:21 pm
by Laughingman
Peter_Frank wrote:Prices are really high :(

But so is "delivery time", because of the extreme demands now.

Which normally regulates the price to the "upper level", but not only because of that - also because of the small volume.

On the other hand, one could also compare with a wave or freestyle windsurf board, as they (board ALONE) are priced at exactly the same, if you want a good one :naughty:


So the price itself is understandable.

BUT, there are two tricky parts in this game:

1. Compared to a windsurf board/rig or other similar items, we are very much at risk because we can hit a rock or similar, at the bottom - thus the "small fortune" can get lost or damaged to "uselessness" (I know it is not a correct word, but somehow it makes sense to just say/write it...) before you can blink with your eye...

2. Almost noone has the option to try a foil, before he/she buys one.
Because there are few, and those who got one are thinking about above #1 often, so of course not willing to lend out to everyone.
AND, even if you could try one, it would be a waste of time - because it is so difficult and takes time to master - so you will not get ANY useful "trial" experiences whatsoever.


These are the reasons why only a few buys a foil IMO, to these prices.

If #1 and 2 did not exist, the price itself would not be a major problem, as we use way more money on other things anyways....

But because of above, the price makes most "hesitate" and NOT buy one.

There is an opposing "drift" though - as everybody who sees us foiling, says "I want one" :thumb:

NOT knowing that it is not as steep a learning curve as kitesurfing (which is one of the easiest sports IMO, where you can go from zero to hero in absolutely no time)

So this balances the resist to buy out, and more and more will get a foilboard from now on I think.

Luckily they dont know how hard it is to master :lol: And will get a bit of a surprise for starters :x

On the other hand - WHEN you master it, it is AWESOME, and endless options to learn new things, as one can clearly see by watching any video with Marc Blanc :rollgrin:

8) PF
Well said Peter, one of your best posts ever.

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:09 pm
by Bille
Laughingman wrote:
Peter_Frank wrote:Prices are really high :(

But so is "delivery time", because of the extreme demands now.

Which normally regulates the price to the "upper level", but not only because of that - also because of the small volume.

On the other hand, one could also compare with a wave or freestyle windsurf board, as they (board ALONE) are priced at exactly the same, if you want a good one :naughty:


So the price itself is understandable.

BUT, there are two tricky parts in this game:

1. Compared to a windsurf board/rig or other similar items, we are very much at risk because we can hit a rock or similar, at the bottom - thus the "small fortune" can get lost or damaged to "uselessness" (I know it is not a correct word, but somehow it makes sense to just say/write it...) before you can blink with your eye...

2. Almost noone has the option to try a foil, before he/she buys one.
Because there are few, and those who got one are thinking about above #1 often, so of course not willing to lend out to everyone.
AND, even if you could try one, it would be a waste of time - because it is so difficult and takes time to master - so you will not get ANY useful "trial" experiences whatsoever.


These are the reasons why only a few buys a foil IMO, to these prices.

If #1 and 2 did not exist, the price itself would not be a major problem, as we use way more money on other things anyways....

But because of above, the price makes most "hesitate" and NOT buy one.

There is an opposing "drift" though - as everybody who sees us foiling, says "I want one" :thumb:

NOT knowing that it is not as steep a learning curve as kitesurfing (which is one of the easiest sports IMO, where you can go from zero to hero in absolutely no time)

So this balances the resist to buy out, and more and more will get a foilboard from now on I think.

Luckily they dont know how hard it is to master :lol: And will get a bit of a surprise for starters :x

On the other hand - WHEN you master it, it is AWESOME, and endless options to learn new things, as one can clearly see by watching any video with Marc Blanc :rollgrin:

8) PF
Well said Peter, one of your best posts ever.
YES, as usual, Peter analysis is right on ! :thumb:

So Peter, are you a Doctor or something (?) ; because most All your posts
are easy to understand and concise in there explanation , (and that's NOT easy)
to do !!

Bille

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:35 pm
by alexrider
diogovilla wrote:Why can't we find the gear PRICES on hydrofoil companies websites?

:wallbash:
If you ask the price, it means it's too expensive for you. :wink:

:jump: :jump: :jump:

Re: Prices on hydrofoil companies websites.

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:26 am
by droffats
Troll warning: we sell MHL and have one in stock --

Foil and board = $2349
Foil only = $1849

http://www.adventurekiteboarding.com/ca ... s/1955.htm

Anywhere in the continental USA with free shipping. AK and HI a little more.