when toeside riding right foot forward my right hand is above the center hole but kinda close to the center, I find I can hold the bar in position power - wise and push kinda leveraging the bar against the chicken loop rope for a downloop, I also dont really find it too hard to reach across with my left hand and pull the lower part of the bar. ( wonder if any of that makes sense to anyone but me? )
I seldom switch stance when wave riding a surfboard unless I really need to make upwind so I'm used to working the kite from toeside.
Just another rookie observation.
Very precisely put and easy to understand, makes sense.
Not sure whether you are talking downlooping when on a surfboard, or on a hydrofoil ?
These are two completely opposite creatures
On a waveboard it is easy, also for me, to reach over and downloop smoothly if carving back, no biggie
But there is a huge catch when on a hydrofoilboard in light winds - which makes it really difficult, at least for me:
When you ride toeside with 15-18m2 kites, maybe foil kites, you have to ride as far upwind as possible, and the kite fully sheeted out against the stopper often.
Easy to ride like this with your upper hand on the bar, and as you say, a bit closer to the center maybe, and you can steer/turn the kite easy
BUT, there is a catch compared to more wind or waveboards, as if you have to downloop these sizes, and bar sheeted far out - you need a firm grip far on the downside of the bar of course, one handed steering is not sufficient.
As you keep the speed down, and course high, toeside - you (I at least) counterbalance with my windward hand.
If I reach over (a LOT, remember the bar is sheeted far out, and has to be during the downloop also, for speed, as you ride towards the kite), my body will turn the board at a lower course, it will accelerate, and the fluid coordinated carve back will be ruined, and you can not time the carve very well, f.ex when hitting a wave.
So I find it better to let go of the bar, and grab the downside with the "wrong" hand, as this will make it possible to pull hard, and still be able to sheet out - and you DONT ruin the initiation of the carve.
But holding the bar cross with one hand, is also a bit odd - and if you crash you might forget what you were doing ha haa
So neither of these methods works well
When going into the turn, downlooping is easy - it is the turn back that is a problem for me if it has to be a downloop....
Okay - nough of me - how do you do it ?
In more wind, you can actually ride downwind, carve, carve back downlooping easy as you dont have your back towards the kite toeside now - so you can do this without having to go upwind, as the kite will drift/turn easy here when more wind - this is not possible in marginal winds.
Do others understand what I am talking about here ?