Wind_rider your post are confusing to read man.... I get the concept but either simplify the message or follow through with the full thought! You have a legitimate complaint and I hate to see it being lost in a garbled post. I am hoping that he comes through on his orders as it sucks to be on the receiving end of two negatives (no money and no product)!wind_rider wrote:I am also waiting with intense anticipation to see the 1st foil delivered to see if the information I am getting (which Im sharing here to warn others to be careful handing over money like me) is correct or not.
I am prepared entirely at my own expenses to have that 1st foil fully tested by the worlds leading authority the Wolfson Unit in Southampton and we will soon establish if it is a quality piece of kit or not. I will share the results prepared by an impartial 3rd party for all to see as previous experience shows he is selling very poor quality equipment that will quickly break.
If (and that is a massive if) it turns out to be scenario a. and that can be shown to have come out of a mould and it stands engineering scrutiny that proves he has the ability to produce and reproduce. But there is a scenario c. that he then collects $1 million + in down payments of which how many will actually be delivered and how many will last more than 5 minutes.
That he is a liar of the highest magnitude there is no doubt. He tol;d me he physically had a large quantity of foils personally in his own hands and when I told him I would be on the next flight to Bali that's when the threats started. In fact every single thing he has ever told me has proven to be a lie.
The concerns being raised are entirely legitimate and ones that Carafino has it within his power to address but he choses not to for reasons known only to him. Will the speculation he has created lead to a self fulfilling prophesy. Possibly but that is the way he choses to do business.
There are 2 groups of people giving him money 1. People trying to get in to a great area of the sport which is a bit cost and technology prohibitive 2. People who think they can make a fast buck.
I only have sympathy for the 1st group but there is an expression in the UK "If you pay peanuts you get monkeys" and this is the best example I have ever seen of that.
I have bought what seems to be a very good moses board where the board and foil are full carbon and a tiny fraction of the thickness (and weight I would imagine) for a 10% premium over a carafino board which is massively better than sitting on a beach in prime learning conditions wondering if the good I paid for will ever appear and I suggest you research the alternatives from quality suppliers.
On which note Im off kite hydrofoiling.
I am not sure the last "you" points the same people. These who order and these who warned that it smells bad are different "you". The problem is not the customers in this situation, is it necessary to say that again (and again) ?Johnny Rotten wrote:It should be obvious he financed this operation with down payments on his 2 for 1 deal to offset start up costs.....and may run out of funds, especialy with no more orders coming in after having his offer dragged through the mud here on his only potential customer base.
....A self fulfilling prophecy to some degeee....So if he doesn't deliver, you can all pat yourselves on the back.....you did it.....
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