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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby danbrazil » Mon May 23, 2016 12:18 pm

Hey stevez, how's the progression on the HP560?

As promised, here is the video I made after the first couple of sessions on the new highperformance wings.

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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby stevez » Tue May 24, 2016 6:46 am

Awesome stuff :thumb: I'm a bit envious of you riding in warm water in boardshorts.

We've had no wind here for 4 weeks. I've had just one short session in that time. But even then, from the moment I got on the board it was already much better. Just told myself to stand a few inches further forward and crank it a bit to get going. I'm hoping with another session or two I'll have it sorted. There's plenty of wind now but lots of rain too.

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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby BraCuru » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:51 pm

Important - the HP560 does not work with a stabilizer MST320G (the one dedicated for HP485).
Whatever position of the foil I felt constant diving of the board's nose.

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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby BraCuru » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:34 am

The latest front wing W550 is described by Moses as a wave wing.
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/ala-wave- ... ente-mw550

I tested it couple days ago and definitely I would add freeride, fun wing to the specs.
Pictures of wing soon.

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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby abel » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:56 pm

BraCuru wrote:The latest front wing W550 is described by Moses as a wave wing.
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/ala-wave- ... ente-mw550

I tested it couple days ago and definitely I would add freeride, fun wing to the specs.
Pictures of wing soon.
It doesn't seem to fit the Silente. Does it?

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Re: Moses Silente front wings - a guide

Postby BraCuru » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:25 pm

abel wrote:It doesn't seem to fit the Silente. Does it?
It does not!
it matches only a fuselage of Vorace and Fluente.

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Re: Moses 2017 front wings - a guide

Postby BraCuru » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:03 pm

There are new wings in Moses family 2017.
Frank Rosin and Gunnar gmb13 do great job testing new stuff.

New sisters are attachable to the very same fuselage MVF680:
- MW548 - very similar to the Fluente wing. It is called High Lift Freestyle wing. However the pictures and order form show the name W548.
From the specs it looks that the outline and AR are the same. The important difference is thickness. The new wing is thicker 1,6mm. Great! It should make the wing a bit slower.
I hope to see 30mm thick wings soon. The slower the better for wave riding :)
in my mind it is the best Moses wing 2017 for learning.
Frank & Gunnar - would you agree?
Image

BTW. The Fluente wing was called Freestyle/Wave last year. It was renamed to Freestyle.
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/front-win ... yle.-mw548


- MW558 - it is upgraded version of the bestseller MW560 from the last year. It is called All Round. Pure free fun wing which can reach 30kts easily. I'd recommend it for intermediate and advanced riders.
This is the best wing for mastering the air transitions, tacks, jibes.
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/front-win ... nd-.-mw558
Image


- MW600 - racing machine called simply Competition. This is the replacement of last year 580 wing. The wing is the part of the racing set called Comet.
Cannot say about it too much. I'm not a level to describe it. However the racings season 2017 starts soon and it will verify this wing.
Just look at the specs: max thickness 9mm :o AR 7.8, super slim - you don't need to be a racer to know this is not a wing for learning ;)
Moses claims that the minimising of the thickness reduced the drag 10%
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/front-win ... on-.-mw600
Image

- MW600A - this is the same wing as above but made of High Modulus Carbon fiber (Nanotech carbon fiber)
I heard from Blasco & Maks that the new carbon makes wings crazy, crazy stiff despite being so slim.
This wing will be a choice of the top racers and rather deep pocket riders.
http://www.moseshydrofoil.com/front-win ... n-.-mw600a

It would be nice if Moses provide the weight of their wings and foils. They don't have any reason to be ashamed.
I will try to update it once get it.

Note that the are different name codes for the wings this year.
On the order form they will be called MWxxx but the real product will be painted with Wxxx.
it might be a bit confusing. Remember - the MW600 is the same as the W600.

BTW - is anybody still missing the cult FR425 or FR450?
Honestly - so far the best choice for wave riding I've ever had. So happy to have the spare ones :)

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Re: Moses front wings - a guide

Postby BraCuru » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:38 am

Forgot about the news which should be read as BREAKING one.
Have you noticed 3 new tags on Moses website?
Image

However if you open any of them now you will see this:
Image

So far Moses fulfilled their promises so I hope to see SUP/surf, windfoil and wakefoil in coming weeks.
BTW. Wakefoil - who knows what is it?
My shaper has already begun works on the hoover windfoil board :)
Really feel excited - I will come back to windsurfing after 12 years break :)

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Re: Moses 2017 front wings - a guide

Postby Frank Rosin » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:49 am

BraCuru wrote:There are new wings in Moses family 2017.
Frank Rosin and Gunnar gmb13 do great job testing new stuff.

New sisters are attachable to the very same fuselage MVF680:
- MW548 - very similar to the Fluente wing. It is called High Lift Freestyle wing. However the pictures and order form show the name W548.
From the specs it looks that the outline and AR are the same. The important difference is thickness. The new wing is thicker 1,6mm. Great! It should make the wing a bit slower.
I hope to see 30mm thick wings soon. The slower the better for wave riding :)
in my mind it is the best Moses wing 2017 for learning.
Frank & Gunnar - would you agree?
Image
Yes, easiest wing for learning.
For wave riding it is more a matter of personal preference and riding style and of course wave conditions.

BraCuru wrote: It would be nice if Moses provide the weight of their wings and foils. They don't have any reason to be ashamed.
I will try to update it once get it.
This is what I weighed:

W548 392g
W550 392g
W558 372g
W600 276g
S325 115g
S330 108g
S380 91g

Image

More pics:
https://www.famousfrank.de/2017/03/06/moses-wings-2017/

Cheers,
Frank
http://www.famousfrank.com/hydrofoil/moses

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Re: Moses front wings - a guide

Postby flaps1111 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:04 pm

It would be nice a real ultralight wing for that new mast, like Ketos or Alpinefoil.


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