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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby SparD » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:46 pm

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby tkettlepoint » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:38 am

Testing the Man-O-War pocket board strapless. Matt makes it look pretty easy
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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:01 am

tkettlepoint wrote:Testing the Man-O-War pocket board strapless. Matt makes it look pretty easy
I see someone else suffers from "Chilli Peppers" hands too...

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby revhed » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:39 pm

MBS1 wrote:best way to injure yourself- strapless

The safest thing you can do when crashing is to keep both feet in straps and you will never get in touch with your foil!!

Practice crashing keeping both feet in straps and you wont get cut up!
This is so WRONG and dangerous!
Please of you are learning to fly a KBHF DO NOT try to keep your feet in straps when crashing, if you are not skilled enough to learn strapless BY far the sfaest way to learn, PERIOD!
Never read or heard of anyone getting cut by their foil but have seen first hand MANY times and read of MANY injuries using at worst 2 straps and even with only one front loose enough.
Close after strapless for safe learniing is a half cut front only foot hook. as it provides just enough water start board control and correct front foot stance placement.
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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby salvino » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:09 pm

I so agree with strapless learning. But each has to make their own decision. Maybe, and just maybe, have loose front strap or hook to help during learning water start and foot placement. Then get it OFF. I could never imagine bearing off wind with that thing attached to me!

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby Macisback » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:48 am

I think flexible foot hookers (NSI) offer the same safety as strapless.

And they offer the strapless feeling and maneuvers, while they add the features of straps as well.

Works for me!

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby TomW » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:05 pm

Im having troubles seeing the video links.
Can some describe how you are grabbing board? When I start strapless on surfboard, sometimes I will grab tail of board at the rail and hold it down until I can get my feet on the board.
Then I use kite pressure to push against the board with my feet to keep it at and angle in the water.
It it similar?

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby Nem0 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:33 am

What do you think about that http://www.northshoreinc.com/store/p...?idproduct=425
Could this be a good compromise?

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby geopeck » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:03 pm

Can some describe how you are grabbing board? When I start strapless on surfboard, sometimes I will grab tail of board at the rail and hold it down until I can get my feet on the board.
Then I use kite pressure to push against the board with my feet to keep it at and angle in the water.
It it similar?
Not sure what the standard move is but I've been doing this - crank foil up to 90 degrees with kite overhead, plant front foot in place and instead of back foot, use back knee to create stable triangle. Same as sitting in the water with your TT perpendicular to the wind, you can adjust direction to a small degree by working board angle/kite angle. Crank kite with whichever hand happens to be on the bar and replace knee with foot while kite is starting to dive.

Using a knee puts you closer and makes it easier to hold the board up, you have a little slop time in the program since the foil takes a few seconds to sink beyond an unrecoverable angle.

I started doing this right away when I was learning and think it makes it pretty easy. I miss water starts sometimes when I start to tire out but that's a pretty good indicator that the rest of the program will be falling apart soon.

Getting up on the board happens very much by hook or by crook, the smaller kite means that as long as you get your weight over it you can react to lack of speed or too much speed, poorly angled starts etc. I have been finding my recognition of angles to the wind gets warped by foiling because of the bizarre upwind tacks one can make.

If the foil drops too far down into the water one can compensate a bit by pushing the tail down harder and lifting the nose, you will never be able to get leverage to tilt it on the other axis but I intend to explore the outside parameters of bracing off the tail. One of my favorite bits about strapless riding is body dragging up to the board and grabbing/orienting it with my feet instead of my hands to start (it's small but it makes me feel a little closer to being a sea monkey) and I would be stoked to learn a no hands water start with the foil. Especially since falling and restarting makes up a significant part of the session.

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Re: Best way not to injure yourself : go strapless !

Postby SparD » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:25 am

Two years after starting this topic, I'm still reading or hearing about people twisting or breaking their ankles because of straps !

So I'm still going strapless and I don't think it's holding me down, see yourself :

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