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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby lovethepirk » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:18 am

That was a sweet simple backroll at 1:31 landed perfectly, holy shit, so cool!
https://youtu.be/dCSEkh9g_Ck?t=1m31s

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby Blackrat » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:55 pm

Sick skills

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby borist » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:41 pm

Awesome skills, Horst! Very inspiring. re Nobile, I also found it surprisingly draggy myself, although I tried it with stab of course.

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby Horst Sergio » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:42 pm

@all: Thanks for the flowers :D

@lovethepirk:
Even if maybe nobody believes it: Clean landings without touchdown are easier on the monofoil as you are more free in finding a good foil entrance angle and even if you don't hit it right and you are pulling down a bubble, it is much easier to recover and to relieve from the bubble. Just the mono is able to quickly change wing angle of attack of lets say 10° pitch down to release the bubble and immediately pull back again 10°pitch up to prevent touchdown all within a second, which is impossible when being blocked by a stabi. So don't use those things :nono: :wink: but, ok I know it is a long way, but great and worth for real low jumping freestyle.
Peter_Frank wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:41 pm
Some fluid air jibes :rollgrin:
The jibes are still the bitches, as you have to pull up front strap/foot first and then fast hit the other one when foot change and additionally after the downloop you have to bring the kite up again to be able to place back foot into strap, which is all not so fast and secure jet. :( But tacks with full strap to strap are getting well even in difficult conditions. And for the jibes started to try real aerial jibes so foot change in the air, which on the end could become easier than with the wing in the water :lol: . Stuff for future videos.
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Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:41 pm
... it is incredible to see how this kite can turn on a dime literally, and ride backwards without pulling the rearlines - not so with the racekites...
Or is it just the sheer (small) size that makes them able to turn and handle like that ? Most never ride racekites smaller than 11 m2 (me neither).
And you are riding kite trailing edge backwards for a while - cool, have never seen that :naughty:
Practically every foil kite can be propellered like that. You just have to pull in on steering line by 0-30 cm above normal sheeting in and full steering in. For small kites with a close to stall point setting as I use it can be enough to just use the bar and correct riding pressure to enter. It is easier to start with an upwards loop. It is a bit more difficult to hold it over some helicopter rounds. For that you have to release the oversheeted line again by about 5-10 cm when the kite starts to really enter the movement and the turning point comes to the middle. If you don't release a bit in this moment angle of attack of the now backwards flying wing tip will become to low and it will "frontstall" / collapse as you also see at least one time in the last video. But if you find the right pressure point, especially a high AR race kite can helicopter extremly fast and also produce enough pull to go on riding on a foil in broad reach in > 15 knts of wind. You just have to remember to stop movement after at least 4 turns otherwise your lines will be blocked :wink: .
More difficult is to completely fly and ride the kite backwards even it has now a glide ratio better than 0, as it is when you helicopter. I think one problem is that you haven't the stabilizing centrifugal forces and you have to stear the kite straight line backwards while it is extremly sensible to +/- 1 cm to keep the tips stable but to still fly backwards and it is more difficult to receive enough power from the kite to keep on riding. Therefore doing this on a monofoil or a high efficient racefoil is not an extra difficulty but a need. Don't think it is easier or possible to do it on a twintip as it would require much more wind and therefore much harder to control the kite.


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No extra tricks, just nicer conditions, last summer and another board and wing.

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:53 pm

Yup, our racefoilkites can turn on a dime pulling a rearline, but you dont do this - then of course you have sheeted it out so you can fly it backwards - thus with this a tad smaller size you can propel it around directly from the bar :D

It still looks amazing when you do it like that :rollgrin:

Not possible with the bigger foilkites as they have a way too long sheeting range till they fly from forward to backwards.

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Re: Monofoil or "riding stabless", setup and riding

Postby borist » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:10 am

footstraps on the pocket board just look WRONG :lol:


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