Thank's for testing and all the shared Information
flying grandpa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:42 am
- all above foils were not designed for monofoilig - there is more room for comfort for sure, especially to widen comfort speed bandwidth.
My words, this is the main reason why I started this topic: Let's try to collect Information about the needs for a well balanced monofoil and one day a shaper who is willing to put them into a monofoil only product.
flying grandpa wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:42 am
- more wing surface helps
- careful hydrodynamic design to avoid waterflow instabilities is a must
-Yes surface is a must for beginning to allow slow flying speeds. But since some days a ride a 550 mm² high AR 7 wing to understand its characteristics and it behaves pretty well maybe also due to low surface
- Yes it is also my impression that hydrodynamic design should have been set well all over:
Tried a simple flat Nobile wing as monofoil a while ago and was surprised by its high drag, while I still think flat wings could have some potential for even more gentle surfacing
Tried a high swept back wing out of fiberglass and it felt spongy and not to good
Most experience for me 63 kg with this three Levitaz wings all with pretty low chamber (Surface in mm² / Span in cm / Chord in cm / AR)
Cruizer (990 / 63 / 19 / 4,3)
Best beginner wing tested till now, due to highest surface, range till now 16-34 km/h but expandable. Needs a 96 cm strut otherwise wide span will breath in 360 and it is not so good in surfacing, maybe shorter strut in waves possible. Due to slow speeds great to learn manouvers and for flying landings (use actuall reinforced struts to stand the loads). Riding it long time at higher speeds can consume leg force as if pitching up force can be violant due to high surface. Greatest for ultra light wind.
Element (680 / 50 / 16 / 3,9)
Most used and still most liked and all purpose wing speed range 19-38 km/h but expandable. Not tested but for sure also able to use 85 strut due to low span and great surfacing characteristics (no catapults). Not the best in any disciplin but very good in most and so overall. Even with this low AR upwind angle (with freerace foilkites) up to 38° are possible.
Just one experience in waves but felt the great potential. Very nice save jumping and landing anyway (wing forward or flying).
Aspect (580 / 60 / 12 / 7,0)
Definetly no beginner wing but if you manage get it in flight at 21 km/h it also could be flown pretty high, till now just 35 km/h but high potential. Due to lower surface it feels less violant at higher speed, but back brain concentration is higher so don't think to ride it 2h 50 km wide as the Element. Behaviour for just 12 cm chord is realy "stable" and gentle but use it with a 110 cm strut which feels to be a need. Feels interesting due to even higher performance as up to 30° upwind and great for boosting. But on the end more experimental as main goal of monofoiling for me is no sharp tips and no 110 cm struts but a performant but save and compact all over design.
Hope to get a new wing today, lets see
@ronnie:
yes, hope to find somebody who can deal with also the Information in the diagramm to find the best monofoil profile