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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Skywalker7 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:11 pm

Nobody writes any comparison on the 2 kites however. Just a few thoughts. Sonic 2 has for sure higher performance than the Chrono 2 due to the higher aspect. Quite a few people write that how well the R1s works in little winds. Well thats due to the performance. The Sonic 2 will be much closer to the performance of the R1 than the Chrono 2 so it will have a better low end as well.
The other factors to consider is the materials. Flysurfer has a quite a few years of experience and testing of the different materials for kites. If durability does not matter to you than it is not worth to think about, otherwise I would definitly bet on the Lotus material. I have tested this type of material very extensively on my tandem paraglider, and I can tell you that this Lotus material will have easily 2x or 3x the lifespan of the Chrono 2 UL material.

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby fogmeister » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:09 pm

i have relaunched my sonic 2's a few times in light wind and believe they are the best relaunching kites in light wind as the lotus wont stick to the water. Yesterday my chickenloop came off on a jump and after hitting the water i let go of the bar as i didnt want to pound the kite accidently into the water hard. Even with the release i pulled the bar back in and relauched (in deep water , not standing)..that is almost unheard of after a safety release.......this was in 8kts. even the ultralight ozones and diablos can stick to the water......although they may stay up a fraction longer.

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby fogmeister » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:21 pm

you should also consider if your going to boost one day.......while you may be carving around in 6-10 kts with a 9m kite you would be underpowered for boosting. the big boosting machines here in light winds are 12s and 13s in 6-10 kts

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Flag53 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:37 pm

Cheers guys :-)

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby IWB2 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:12 pm

My limited experience on the 15m ozone chrono v2 ultralight and at 70kg would choose the 15m if looking to kite in 4-10kts. The 15m I found to be very smooth in power in the light winds I was using in (with 27m lines). I too was initially concerned that this size would be far too powerful but definitely not the case. Incredible light wind performance the Ozone Ul offers. The Ozone chrono v2 11m standard model I look for 9 kts as my low. I'm guessing that if using the 11m UL model I would push to 8 knots. While the chrono v2 is great in light conditions the UL model pushes the envelope when performing in very ultralight conditions.

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:15 pm

IWB2 wrote:My limited experience on the 15m ozone chrono v2 ultralight and at 70kg would choose the 15m if looking to kite in 4-10kts. The 15m I found to be very smooth in power in the light winds I was using in (with 27m lines). I too was initially concerned that this size would be far too powerful but definitely not the case. Incredible light wind performance the Ozone Ul offers. The Ozone chrono v2 11m standard model I look for 9 kts as my low. I'm guessing that if using the 11m UL model I would push to 8 knots. While the chrono v2 is great in light conditions the UL model pushes the envelope when performing in very ultralight conditions.
What board and wing are you using in this wind ?

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Flag53 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:55 pm

What's the turning speed like on the 15m UL ?

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:16 pm

Flag53 wrote:What's the turning speed like on the 15m UL ?

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Probably incredibly slow ha haa :wink:

It seems you have to go to and below 9 m2 before they start to turn just reasonably okay, all of the high AR race foil kites :naughty:

The 11 and 12 m2 ones I have seen and tried, are horribly slow - but of course, it would be a waste to drop performance to turn faster, why would you do that ?
Many other foil kites are specialised in turning I assume, just like the Flysurfer Psycho 4 was.

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Regis-de-giens » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:31 pm

Indeed, and I still think that a lot of foilers under-estimate the pleasure of the gain in versatility, stability and agility of lower ratio foilkites (against little loss of upwind angle, ok but little) , knowing that ability to ride in marginal wind is not really impacted (if not better for a medium-skilled rider), not to mention relaunch improvement. Just my opinion...

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Re: Flysurfer sonic2 vs ozone Chrono v2 ultralight

Postby Flag53 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:40 pm

Hi Regis, I'm not reall in the know about foils
( as you can probably tell )
Which medium aspect foils would u recommend ? Just so I can read up on them ,

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