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Typical HF Learning curve

Postby abel » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:08 pm

kas911 wrote:
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:43 pm
Have you only had two hydrofoil sessions? Then I think you just need hours and hours on the water, to get the feel, before you go all technical
The normal learning curve:
1- You think about it
2- try simulators (rolla bolla)
2.51 research months about the best equipment for you
2.52 buy 2nd hand whatever is available
3- start first sessions
4- you're a lousy beginner, but you have quite crystallized ideas how newcomers have to behave
5- you "learn more from the forum"
6- by now you achieve theoretical PhD on the hydrofoil forum
6.51 you blame your slow progress on the too light/strong/gusty wind; sand bars; people around you disturbing your concentration; the equipment, waves and wife.
6.52 you have your first long tacks (board on water, no flying)
6.53 you're stuck in the dolphin/kangaroo/mechanical bull phase
7- you get your first acrophobial high speed rib/face crashes :accident:
8- you find out that all above is worth nothing
Proof : Image

9- you're go silent on the forum and finally focus on learning the "through the feet trial and horror" method :shake:
10- Finally you start enjoying HF :wink:

"You can always count on Hydrofoil Kitesurfers to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." Winston Churchill :o

P.S. talking for myself

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby salvino » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:58 pm

Well put!

Time and experience are the ticket.

A buddy would always say, "a chance to foil is a chance to foil"

First year I always put foil on beach unless wind was cranking. Our Great Lakes weather results in foilable conditions on most days that wind shows up.

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby dylan* » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 am

speak for yourself, foiling is pretty easy to learn, especially with the half-size masts now available

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby Pedro Marcos » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:13 am

dylan* wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 am
speak for yourself, foiling is pretty easy to learn, especially with the half-size masts now available
Get a race foil and give it a try just after you "learned" on the half-size mast.

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby dylan* » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:34 am

Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:13 am
dylan* wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 am
speak for yourself, foiling is pretty easy to learn, especially with the half-size masts now available
Get a race foil and give it a try just after you "learned" on the half-size mast.
no

most people don't use race foils. thread is about learning how to foil.

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby jeromeL » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:54 am

Indeed, looks like no need to sweat the small stuff and let muscle memory gets in.
Though at end of first session I had zero control on top of foil, spent some time on forum and at beginning of second session I could control flight right away. Or could just be sleeping on it and letting brain connection optimize ;)

I think m doing ok, on second session with a controlled flight of 30 seconds with nice face plant finish, and still didn't foil myself a new ass crack ;)

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby Pedro Marcos » Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:45 am

dylan* wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:34 am
Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:13 am
dylan* wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:56 am
speak for yourself, foiling is pretty easy to learn, especially with the half-size masts now available
Get a race foil and give it a try just after you "learned" on the half-size mast.
no

most people don't use race foils. thread is about learning how to foil.
And when do you say that you learned how to foil ? When you were able to cruise with a small mast and a big super stable and super lifty wing? Or when you are able to ride and adapt to any foil someone will throw at you?

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby dylan* » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:35 pm

Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:45 am
dylan* wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:34 am
Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:13 am


Get a race foil and give it a try just after you "learned" on the half-size mast.
no

most people don't use race foils. thread is about learning how to foil.
And when do you say that you learned how to foil ? When you were able to cruise with a small mast and a big super stable and super lifty wing? Or when you are able to ride and adapt to any foil someone will throw at you?
when do you say you learned how to drive? when you won your first F1 race?

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby Pedro Marcos » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:39 pm

I didnt say that you have to win anything, if you put yourself inside a F1 you will be able to drive it , just not fast enough to win anything

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Re: Typical HF Learning curve

Postby danidr » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:10 pm

Pedro Marcos wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:39 pm
I didnt say that you have to win anything, if you put yourself inside a F1 you will be able to drive it , just not fast enough to win anything
Probably not, F1 cars need a certain amount of speed to keep everything in working condition. Not enough speed: not enough temp for the brakes to work, tires won't have grip, engine to be at operating temp and downforce won't be effective... I guess the same as a racing foil that is more stable at speed.

What I think is that you don't have to be in a F1 to enjoy the racetrack, as long as you're able to go around it safely and at your pace while having fun, you know how to foil.


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