Starsky wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:59 am
Peter_Frank wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:30 am
When the wind is just on the light side for a waveboard, I find the same kitesize on a foilboard is too big.
In short: I see two kitesizes difference from waveboard to foilboard, so changing back and fourth if the wind goes up and down during the day, is a no no for me - I have to rig two different sizes and THEN I can change (also use different linelenghts anyways) if I want to change back and fourth, even if the wind changes a bit.
Meaning in the same wind the difference waveboard-foilboard for me is typical 6-4 m2 8-5 m2 10-6 m2 which is two kitesizes difference, not only one
Maybe Im not there yet, but Im with Juandesooka on this one. I really don't like foiling underpowered. It takes all the fun away. You can't bear off and simply let the kite drift, your angle upwind is nothing special, you can't get a hit of power to save yourself from imminent doom, and if it lulls just a little you can be sitting in the water waiting (in perfectly decent wind) for a gust to get up and going again. Don't get me wrong, Im not a fan of being overpowered either, that can be almost as limiting, but the very moment I have felt underpowered on a surfboard and switched to the foil with the same kite has always been right back into the sweet spot. Lately have found my wind threshold creeping back up, despite the foil. I haven't used my 12m yet this year because those days just don't seem to tempt me. Glad I have it for some future wind drought when I'll need a fix, but lately if its not at least 12 knots, I really can't be bothered.
For me, two full steps up from foil kite size is twin tip size. Have even had that board out a few times lately!
Me neither, dont want to ride underpowered on a foil, important to go fast upwind and have the ability to just let the kite "hang" no matter what.
Amazed though, how you guys can use the same kitesize ?
Out on a waveboard, with a 7 m2 in its sweetspot (for me) around 23 knots.
When it drops to 20-21 knots I am underpowered on the 7 m2 and not in its sweetspot anymore, no more fun.
Would normally rig an 8 or 9 m2 then, as I am not able to go upwind well or at all - meaning this is the scenario where the wind drops so my 7 is too small.
Now I can definitely not ride in my "sweetspot" on a hydrofoil in 20-22 knots with a 7 m2, I will be WAY overpowered and need a 5 m2 here, even my 6 m2 is too big not in doubt, have tried it so often
My point was, if it was 23 knots I would use a 4 m2 on a hydrofoil, and a 7 m2 on a waveboard, which is 2 "typical" kitesizes difference, and not just one.
So amazed how you guys can use the same kite for hydrofoiling when the wind backs off so on the underpowered side for a waveboard ?
It definitely does not work for me - and no, I dont ride underpowered on my hydrofoil.
Of course, if the wind drops a lot suddenly and permanently, you can just switch from your waveboard to your hydrofoil using the same kite (but different lines, for me) - it has happened once (a great day BTW with the best waves seen in a long time), but what happens the most is the wind going just a tad up or down, so you are on the either overpowered or low powered side, outside the sweetspot for your kite on a waveboard.
Here the same kite can not be used with a hydrofoil, at least not for me...
It would be nice if you could just change board, but as said, too much kitesize difference from waveboards to hydrofoils when free and waveriding, for me.