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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby jeromeL » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:48 pm

TomW wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:26 pm
I know this is a constant debate about straps and hooks and strapless.
I have heard about injury of a local Rider and seen video of the guy who makes the noob mistake of leaning back while foil mast is more vertical, his body falls to windward, while the board stays on its path, but falling to leeward, his feet get jammed further into the Straps and ankles get hyper extended. Same as local guy I know, he got lucky and only needed to rest 4 weeks ( and a young person).
So yes, you can bail with straps falling forward etc, but this specific kind of fall is dangerous.
I don't see the point of denial or debate, maybe it's a small risk, but foothooks are good compromise if you don't want to go strapless.
Did that a few times, first days, vicious circle you feel like falling back and try to push harder heel/back leg but gets board further away with board up 50 cm facing outward while body falls on water on other side. I feel like you could not only injure ankle but possibly break foot since rail of board is applying pressure in shin/calf area quite a lot...

I am not super young but pretty flexible so wasn't too bad recovered after 2 nights sleep.
I have my straps (only fronts) super loose but that doesn't really help, I guess some hook or strapless is way to go but at same time there is risk of foil/board hitting you when you fall whereas with strap once you learn how to fall you can keep board away from you.

Like someone else said I learned on neutral boyancy setup el stubbo just fine, but I hear that extra volume in board helps at begining and also increase low end slightly though I haven't felt any low end issue so far for my local conditions, still a newbie so didn't experience so many light days.

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby tegirinenashi » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:54 pm

Mossy 757 wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:53 pm
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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby Coolbreeze805 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:30 am

I'm a newbie at land kites. I have a HQ 2.2 foil kite and looking to upgrade to a 4-5 meter land kite. What should I get? I'm just looking to having some fun on the sand

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby airsail » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:44 am

Call me strange but I only ever use a rear strap, mainly to aid waterstarts. Try a loaner board yesterday, had front straps fitted, yep, got locked in when I went over the front. Quickly removed the fronts and put the back one back on, problem solved. I also find being able to move my front foot around for trimming a big help.

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby TomW » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:14 pm

An guy I know borrowed my foil and I took his trashed LF with flying fish board. It was strapless, but I managed to get up on it. It has even less volume than my board.
Due to it having bent fuselage and tape on the stab, it was really slow and draggy, but despite that you could tell it would be easier to ride. It had way less yaw stability than mine too.

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby blu » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm

I have 2017 Lift 150 wing with Happy Foil board and 82 cm mast and works great for my first steps in foiling . The strap opens when my foot is in trouble.
The cost of this foil is comparable with most basic aluminium foils and is solid and no sharp edges.
Here are some pics.
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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby NorCalNomad » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 am

blu wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm
I have 2017 Lift 150 wing with Happy Foil board and 82 cm mast and works great for my first steps in foiling . The strap opens when my foot is in trouble.
The cost of this foil is comparable with most basic aluminium foils and is solid and no sharp edges.
Here are some pics.

Cool little safety strap system you've got going there. Any accidental releases?

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby blu » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:30 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 am
blu wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm
I have 2017 Lift 150 wing with Happy Foil board and 82 cm mast and works great for my first steps in foiling . The strap opens when my foot is in trouble.
The cost of this foil is comparable with most basic aluminium foils and is solid and no sharp edges.
Here are some pics.

Cool little safety strap system you've got going there. Any accidental releases?
it's pretty solid bungee strap which saved my foot on few occasions and didn't have any issues with it .
there is few other ways you could do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3tz4GHNhs

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby faklord » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:17 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 am
blu wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm
I have 2017 Lift 150 wing with Happy Foil board and 82 cm mast and works great for my first steps in foiling . The strap opens when my foot is in trouble.
The cost of this foil is comparable with most basic aluminium foils and is solid and no sharp edges.
Here are some pics.

Cool little safety strap system you've got going there. Any accidental releases?
I'd be more worried about a foot/lower leg going through the strap and getting stuck!

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Re: Hydrofoil-Begginer Advise

Postby NorCalNomad » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:31 pm

blu wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:30 pm
NorCalNomad wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:34 am
blu wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:16 pm
I have 2017 Lift 150 wing with Happy Foil board and 82 cm mast and works great for my first steps in foiling . The strap opens when my foot is in trouble.
The cost of this foil is comparable with most basic aluminium foils and is solid and no sharp edges.
Here are some pics.

Cool little safety strap system you've got going there. Any accidental releases?
it's pretty solid bungee strap which saved my foot on few occasions and didn't have any issues with it .
there is few other ways you could do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3tz4GHNhs
That system seems way more janky than yours


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