Yes the target is riding in 4-8 knots, because everytime there is "no wind" in here, its 4-8 knots.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:19 amRemember, Pedro asks which line length that makes sense for "extreme light wind", and not in general.
And while I agree that shorter lines on the really big ones makes sense if a tad more wind (only when foilkites), I disagree that you dont gain anything in extreme marginal wind with longer lines, on bigger foilkites.
Many who answers here ride in "race" mode so to speak, meaning, if not racing, using short or really short lines as it is more than sufficient except for the extreme light wind.
The latter would be something around 4-5 max 6 knots.
And while used to riding with a certain line lenght most of the time, the advantage using longer lines diminishes rapidly, and you get the "bad things" right in your face as not on your backbone now.
Knowing your gear is by far the most important as we all know.
When on the edge just not able to ride, my friends racing say - they KNOW they could go and ride with longer lines, but they are so used to the shorter ones that they often dont bother switching to longer.
Also because they dont wanna "just ride" - but mostly practice racing.
Longer lines helps, how long till it stops, I dont know, 30 and 32 m is what I have been using for above winds with 12 and 15 m2 race foilkites, maybe at some point you wont gain anything, I dont know where it stops ?
But it is still "pleasant" and easy at 30 m thats why I wont go longer.
If we talk normal wind gradient of course, important to say.
Anyone who has tried even longer, in different conditions - and got experience on this ?
I have an idea, but dont know, that 40 m wont really help much (never tried it).
Might start to feel really sloggy and impractical yes, but it might also be able to get you down even further towards the utmost marginal wind where you can start and ride - so interesting about anyone who tried.
Further to Peter's point, as the down stroke completes you have to sheet out to let the kite "breathe" on the up stroke or you will lose most of your power. Biggest thing I had to learn in moving to foil kites.Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:56 amPedro Marcos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:50 pmWhat windrange can you get on 25m lines ? Also your weight and hidrofoil wing ? thxairsurfer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:38 pmI have the Chrono V2 15M ultralight and I use it with 25M lines and a race bar. I have flown it on 17M lines and while the kite is more responsive it's too long of a kite IMO for anything shorter than 25M. at least for me because I always loop the kite to start and on transitions. your experience/preference might be different
Pedros, you have bought the kite, and now you know you can use the std 25 m maybe 30 m for marginal winds - just fly and try it yourself thats the best way to get an idea of the low end, as numbers are soooo deceiving when trying to share.
Just beware, when not having flown a foilkite before there are some differences, like you have to back it "into" the window again in marginal winds, and pull the frontlines.
Also, when diving to get started - it pulls a lot, but when it comes close to the water and loses speed, it has way less power than your regular LEI kite - so you have to get used to this difference, but will come in time.
Just to add... It's all a compromise the best of the best can fly an 11M foil kite with 10 meter lines in a puff of wind. Light body weight, light wind foil, and insane tacking and gybing skills mean that they are always flying in apparent wind. For the rest of us, the downside of long lines is the loss of kite control and massive line slack can allow the kite to wrap itself up before it hits the water if/when you by accident overfly the window/mess up a tack.
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