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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby Dwight » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:32 pm

foam-n-fibre wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:36 pm
Dwight, how does the low end compare? With my wind and shoreline conditions, going out and dropping a kite and swimming in is not really what I want to be doing. Does the windfoil need more wind to get going? There are some days when I don't kite when the lulls are too bad, but bobbing through them on a windfoil would be much easier.

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Peter
On the windsurfer, some days I had an advantage over the kites simply because the kites were falling in the lulls and lulls don't matter when you have 125 liters to stand on. But with more steady wind, kites have a 2 knot low end edge.

Another area where windsurfers loose, in the light wind challenge, is a windsurfer needs to pump aggressively, every time, to get going and take flight. Then you're good and flying, until you hit a wind hole. Then you start all over again, pumping like a mad man. The fun wears off due to this. Sure you can rig big to overcome this, but isn't why we do it to avoid 9m sails or 19m kites. :D

I used to rig 2m smaller than normal windsurfers. My foil was the Horue LW.

I sold all my windsurf foil kit. It sold fast. It seems this summer, windsurfers are going mad for foiling. Last summer, nobody seemed interested around my area.

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby NorCalNomad » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am

NYKiter wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:12 am
Here is a guy windsurf foiling in 50knots.
Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby Kamikuza » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:38 am

NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am
NYKiter wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:12 am
Here is a guy windsurf foiling in 50knots.
Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?
Speed?

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby NorCalNomad » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:51 pm

Kamikuza wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:38 am
NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am
NYKiter wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:12 am
Here is a guy windsurf foiling in 50knots.
Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?
Speed?
Pretty sure some of the top foil race guys don't touch winds like that on a foil, you'd probably need a 2m kite. I remember reading a write up by Johnny Heineken of a Bridge to Bridge race (it is a downwind race..) where it was blowing in the 30's (if I'm remembering right) and he called it survival racing/ riding.

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby plummet » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:22 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am
NYKiter wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:12 am
Here is a guy windsurf foiling in 50knots.
Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?
Why not?

I've been out in winds gusting up to 40 knots on my 4m and it was completely manageable!.

I think you need to go to the pharmacy and purchase come cement suppositories.

PS that doesn't look like 50 knots in the vid. More like 35.

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby Starsky » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:37 pm

Everything looks less windy of video.

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby tegirinenashi » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:51 pm
...50knts...you'd probably need a 2m kite...
Most likely no kite at all. Just lean towards the wind a little and your body would be a perfect sail:
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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby NYKiter » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

been on a 5m in 47knots....for 15 minutes (not on a foil)...not exactly fun...but point being when it gets that way most former WSs revert back...so the trend repeats...perhaps in foiling...

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby NorCalNomad » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:40 am

plummet wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:22 pm
NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am
NYKiter wrote:
Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:12 am
Here is a guy windsurf foiling in 50knots.
Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?
Why not?

I've been out in winds gusting up to 40 knots on my 4m and it was completely manageable!.

I think you need to go to the pharmacy and purchase come cement suppositories.

PS that doesn't look like 50 knots in the vid. More like 35.
You foiled in 50knts? Calling bs on that

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Re: Windsurf Foiling to Rival Kite Foiling?

Postby plummet » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:34 am

NorCalNomad wrote:
Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:40 am
plummet wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:22 pm
NorCalNomad wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:32 am


Why the hell would you want to foil in 50knts?
Why not?

I've been out in winds gusting up to 40 knots on my 4m and it was completely manageable!.

I think you need to go to the pharmacy and purchase come cement suppositories.

PS that doesn't look like 50 knots in the vid. More like 35.
You foiled in 50knts? Calling bs on that
No. I've foiled In 30+ gusting to 40 knots. But I see no reason why 50 knot gusts aren't achievable. 40 knot gusts where easy on the 4m.

I'm calling bs that that video is 50 knots. Looks closer to 35.


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