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kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby deniska » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:57 pm

I see that slingshot markets hover glide separately to kiters, windsurfers and boat guys.

are there any notable differences? Can one use wake or windsurf ones for kiting?

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby tegirinenashi » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:11 pm

There is a simple reason why not. Surfer and windsurfer foil markets (don't know about boat) are so small that the pricing of that gear is prohibitive. Watch at this circus:

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So, this thingy (foil only) costs $1700, and nobody is able to ride it? (The glaring absence of head and body protection is another issue).

(Edit: and the leash!!!)

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby BWD » Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:22 pm

tegirinenashi wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:11 pm
There is a simple reason why not. Surfer and windsurfer foil markets (don't know about boat) are so small that the pricing of that gear is prohibitive. Watch at this circus:

phpBB [video]


So, this thingy (foil only) costs $1700, and nobody is able to ride it? (The glaring absence of head and body protection is another issue).

(Edit: and the leash!!!)
WIth all due respect,
And I do mean, ALL DUE Respect,
Bullshit!

https://www.mantafoils.com/e-shop/PRE-O ... -p87568127

The video is probably what a video of you learning to kite would look like, or me. Just different gear. If it was all easy nobody would get excited about it, would they?

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby gmb13 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 am

tegirinenashi wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:11 pm
There is a simple reason why not. Surfer and windsurfer foil markets (don't know about boat) are so small that the pricing of that gear is prohibitive. Watch at this circus:

phpBB [video]


So, this thingy (foil only) costs $1700, and nobody is able to ride it? (The glaring absence of head and body protection is another issue).

(Edit: and the leash!!!)
That is a video of people going out and trying something totally new without any foiling knowledge and instruction.

If you want more info on Surf and SUP foiling look here:

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby nothing2seehere » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:07 am

I have seen the Naish SUP foil and the AHD wind foil in the flesh. Both are huuuge compared to my Moses silente. I expect they are currently designed to give more low speed lift than a kite foil.

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby deniska » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:17 pm

Well I have seen slingshot's hooverglide for windsurf and kite in person and tried them.
The look pretty similar, with windsurf one slightly wider.. They feel almost the same on the water, but I am still new to this so I can't be a good judge...
The wake one seems to be identical to the kite foil according to the photos..

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby BWD » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:41 pm

have wakefoiled on slingshot hoverglide (normal size wing bought by friend for kiteboarding), it works.

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby tegirinenashi » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:19 pm

Let's return to the OP question: "Can one use wake or windsurf ones for kiting?" Not kiting gear for other purposes; the other way around. And the answer is "Why"?

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby deniska » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:11 pm

tegirinenashi wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:19 pm
Let's return to the OP question: "Can one use wake or windsurf ones for kiting?" Not kiting gear for other purposes; the other way around. And the answer is "Why"?
Why would you consider this?
Because of better selection and price on used gear, for example...
Sometime ago I bought a new wakeboard golf deceiver bag for ~$100 while cheapest "kite" specific option was ~$150
You can buy a cheap pump on amazon for $12-14 while cheapest "kite" pump will be ~$30-40
A friend of mine is learning kite foiling on SS hoverglide wing for windsurf and seems to be doing OK.
This is why I am asking if there are any specifics for freeride that wake or windsurf setups don't deliver?

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Re: kite vs wake vs windsurf foils?

Postby Starsky » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:17 pm

I'm very interested in what foils from other disciplines have to offer kiters. Lower stall speeds, better wave riding and optimal carving are the why. The how has yet to be definitively determined.


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