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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby OzBungy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:11 am

Carbon wins for me. Light weight and easy care are big winners.

Since I have gone to carbon the maintenance workload is almost non-existent. The occasional spray with some cheap paint and a quick sand keeps it looking like new. At worst a touch of epoxy paint to fill any chips or scratches. It's mostly cosmetic.

Related is the deep tuttle mast attachment. It's quick and easy to assemble and there's only two bolts.

Light weight is good for carrying to and from the beach and any walking that needs to be done. My alloy riding friends have to deal with heavy gear and sore arms and shoulders.

It's also good for jumping and messing up moves. You have a lot more authority over lighter weight gear.

Getting hit by the foil is relatively rare, but the few time it has happened the light weight foil just bounces off. A heavy foil has much more inertia and momentum to dissipate when it hits you.

The cost difference is small between a high end alloy foil and carbon.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby NYKiter » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:00 am

Im actually wondering about width....does a 4" mast provide any benefit over a 6" mast? Not to hijack the thread...just wondering.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby bigtone667 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:13 am

You can own two aluminium foils for the price of a carbon foil.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby downunder » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:31 am

^
Not with the recent China imports. The shipping weight for alu fails from China would be a killer.

Why would one own two alu foils when you can just change wings is unknown to me. How to transport two foils? On a truck? Just curious...

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby bigtone667 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:43 am

downunder wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:31 am
^
Not with the recent China imports. The shipping weight for alu fails from China would be a killer.

Why would one own two alu foils when you can just change wings is unknown to me. How to transport two foils? On a truck? Just curious...
The greatest kiting transport ever: Mercedes Sprinter (ex-Ambulance) ....... Pain in my arse constantly changing wings and masts. Plus one is a standard construct and the other canard.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby downunder » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:55 am

Excellent choice :)

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby NorCalNomad » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:18 am

grigorib wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:49 pm
They gotta learn how to make lighter alloy masts. Screw the aluminum, magnesium alloy or titanium could be significantly lighter.
Doubt for the price of material and tooling for those guys it'd be cheaper than a carbon construction.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby OzBungy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:47 am

bigtone667 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:13 am
You can own two aluminium foils for the price of a carbon foil.
Not for comparable products.

Zeeko alloy and J Shapes carbon can be had for $1650 in Australia. You might knock a $100 off the Zeeko by buying a cheaper model or getting a discount. Maybe add $100 onto the J Shapes for postage.

Add in a board and you're buying both complete in the vicinity of $3000. To be generous, lets say $2500 for a complete Zeeko alloy kit, and $3000 for the J Shapes.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby bigtone667 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:31 pm

OzBungy wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:47 am
bigtone667 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:13 am
You can own two aluminium foils for the price of a carbon foil.
Not for comparable products.

Zeeko alloy and J Shapes carbon can be had for $1650 in Australia. You might knock a $100 off the Zeeko by buying a cheaper model or getting a discount. Maybe add $100 onto the J Shapes for postage.

Add in a board and you're buying both complete in the vicinity of $3000. To be generous, lets say $2500 for a complete Zeeko alloy kit, and $3000 for the J Shapes.
I got to try a J Shapes in Mauritius..... really nice foil.

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Re: Alloy versus Carbon masts

Postby airsail » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:33 am

The J Shapes look great but with the inability to attach to a low volume board makes it a deal breaker. Maybe they will develop a plate mount in the future.


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