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Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby revhed » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:31 pm

Sure would be interesting, even stupid, if English speaking kite companies printed "mast" on their LEIs referring to the STRUTS!
Of course they would never as it is simply the wrong term!
And it has become common practice to use the term "strut less" for LEIs with out said vertical structural element.
Can you fathom referring to this component as a "mast"?
Wake up people, just because the worlds leading Kite Board Hydro Foiling country uses the word "mat" does NOT make if correct to keep calling it such in English!
In addition it is so easy to see who could be the founding father of the base of most all of our current designs calls this part.
http://nextfoils.com/foils/
He would have NEVER even considered calling a STRUT a mat (French) mast (English)!
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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby BraCuru » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:00 am

Fully agree.
Why do we not use a sailing vocabulary? Instead we use aviation one.
I thought foilboarding is about sailing seas rather than flying skies ;)

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby Kamikuza » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:17 am

Bored, huh? Or just reaching out :lol:

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby BWD » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:40 am

Je suggère que l'on adopte la stratégie de l'artiste célèbre:
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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby BraCuru » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:13 am

Revhed - I'm afraid the case is lost ;)

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby BWD » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:05 pm

As noted above I really don't care what word is used, but RH if you want closure or need a logical reason, keep
In mind that in English usage the word "strut" mainly is used to describe a sub-part of some multi-part assembly (like a car suspension) and not a main or principal part. Some examples:
Jumper struts on fractional sailing rig.
McPherson struts in car suspension.
Landing gear struts on fixed landing gear planes.
Hope that eases the pain...

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby Jackie Treehorn » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:07 pm

mast [mast, mahst]

noun
1.
Nautical.

a spar or structure rising above the hull and upper portions of a ship or boat to hold sails, spars, rigging, booms, signals, etc., at some point on the fore-and-aft line, as a foremast or mainmast.
any of a number of individual spars composing such a structure, as a topmast supported on trestletrees at the head of a lower mast.
any of various portions of a single spar that are beside particular sails, as a top-gallant mast and royal mast formed as a single spar.

2.
Also called pillar. the upright support of a jib crane.
3.
any upright pole, as a support for an aerial, a post in certain cranes, etc

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby davesails7 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:51 pm

But Revhead, surely the makers of the funny fish you love so much can't be wrong? :lol:

I agree, hydrofoils have been around for 50+ years and the vertical support element has always been called a strut. Before that, struts were the vertical supports that hold the propeller shaft under the hull.

I have to admit though, I have called it a mast regularly now because I've heard/read it so often. I'd say it's 50/50 usage now, but I think that's fine. Everyone usually knows what you're talking about.
Jackie Treehorn wrote: 3.
any upright pole, as a support for an aerial, a post in certain cranes, etc
Are you saying this shows that mast is the right word or not? I think this passage proves that it is not how mast has been used in the past. All of this is about supporting something up in the air. A vertical support for something under the water (propeller shaft, hydrofoil) is a strut.

I'm cool with strut or mast though :thumb:

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby Jackie Treehorn » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:07 pm

davesails7 wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:51 pm

Are you saying this shows that mast is the right word or not? I think this passage proves that it is not how mast has been used in the past. All of this is about supporting something up in the air. A vertical support for something under the water (propeller shaft, hydrofoil) is a strut.
i guess it depends on whether you think of it as the board supporting the foil or the foil supporting the board/rider.
I'm saying mast sounds correct. Its an upright pole that supports the board above the foil

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Re: Who calls LEIs vertical structural elements "masts"?

Postby davesails7 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:12 pm

Jackie Treehorn wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:07 pm
i guess it depends on whether you think of it as the board supporting the foil or the foil supporting the board/rider.
I'm saying mast sounds correct. Its an upright pole that supports the board above the foil
Ah, I see what you're saying!

I'm still on the "strut" side though :D


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