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Postby Frank Rosin » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:12 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:26 pm
Thank you Frank!
Can’t wait for feedback from your session.
Unfortunately with new wind direction it was all full of seaweeds.
I could only tell the difference between a lot of weed on the foil and too much weed on the foil -> crash.
At least I also tested new clothing at the same time to make it worthwhile.
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Postby grigorib » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:57 pm
Pedro Marcos wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:38 pm
grigorib wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:26 pm
Frank Rosin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:16 pm
While I do not think this picture has much relevance due to perspective making it far from showing real life size difference...
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I think the pics I posted before say quite a bit more really.
But even those do not tell how they ride in comparison
Which I will be going to do NOW back to back.
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Thank you Frank!
Can’t wait for feedback from your session.
I took your previous pics, applied my expertise from 2’nd grade in using scissors and came up with following comparison.
Nice size difference, I was hoping the 590 would be wide at root chord but even like it is, very nice.
Are those photos at the same scale?
Yes. Printed photo which Frank sent where both were laid side by side.
When I finally get one of 590s into my hands will share more pics.
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Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm
Bugger Frank - we have fortunately no seaweed here now not even with the changed wind direction.
It is a PITA in late summer at some locations which you avoid then
Impossible to test anything in this...
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Postby Flag53 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:47 pm
Wow , Frank Rosin
That's dedication for you
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Postby Frank Rosin » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:35 pm
Flag53 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:47 pm
Wow , Frank Rosin
That's dedication for you
True, only for you guys!
No seriously, just the same as other 364 days of the year.
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Postby Frank Rosin » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:38 pm
Peter_Frank wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm
Bugger Frank - we have fortunately no seaweed here now not even with the changed wind direction.
It is a PITA in late summer at some locations which you avoid then
Impossible to test anything in this...
PF
Hopefully ok again tomorrow when wind direction back to other side again.
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Postby duckypoos » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 pm
Is there any way of adapting these new wings to fit the silente mast ?Are the holes in the wings at the same distance apart as the silente & what about fuselage length etc
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Postby cwood » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:42 pm
duckypoos wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:48 pm
Is there any way of adapting these new wings to fit the silente mast ?Are the holes in the wings at the same distance apart as the silente & what about fuselage length etc
No, totally different.
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Postby grigorib » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:18 pm
Frank Rosin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:38 pm
Hopefully ok again tomorrow when wind direction back to other side again.
Any news Frank?
How have the 590 been performing?
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Postby Wielandt » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:09 pm
Hi guys
Been ridning the 590 a few times the last week. Once in High wind, 1m wawes and with my 6.5 LF Solo and second time in low low wind 6-8 knots with my 15m Storm Voyager. Both times it was a real pleasure.
Normally I ride Moses 550, 558 and racewing 585 with 325 or 320 stabilizer.
On both ocations the 590 behaved really well. Very very stable and and on the low wind day with flat water I want for max speed and chickened out before the ride got unstable. It goes surprisingly fast, probably almost as fast as the 558, which until now has been my favorite.
The 590 starts foiling faster than the 550/558 and keeps foiling at lower speeds. Something like the older 425/450 Silente frontwings. But in contradiction to the 425/450 wings the 590 is also quite fast and could be used for cruising also.
I ride a Moses T40 and noticed that I had to put more weight on my back foot or move the back foot further back when riding the 590 compared to the 550/558 wings.
I think that the 550/558 are a bit more agile than the 590.
In the time to come I will probably use the 590 in conditions where I normally used my 550.
Happy X-mas out there....
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